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Old 01-05-2016, 11:02 PM
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I work in MAS, and I can confirm that the AD title is only for those with at least a few years of work experience. Fresh grads start off as Associates.

If you're interested in the job posting, no harm trying. It's possible they would consider fresh grads for an AD role, since associates and ADs generally do the same type of work. But your title would be Associate, not AD.
Funny guy. If a fresh grad can become AD then I better complain to my boss on Tuesday. Worked 3 years already and still an associate and some fresh grad expects to saunter in and become my manager?



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Funny guy. If a fresh grad can become AD then I better complain to my boss on Tuesday. Worked 3 years already and still an associate and some fresh grad expects to saunter in and become my manager?
bro.. don't be jealous. accept and embrace that you are less talented than that fresh grad who becomes an AD. This fresh grad can be a FCH with esteemed scholarship, done community work and worked both at an MNC and a ministry as an intern during his uni.

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Ha ha, what a joker. Are you talking about some profiles like this 2?

s://sg.linkedin.com/in/kelly-teo-790ba03
s://sg.linkedin.com/in/paul-ho-08b4b818

In case you read too many lawyer papers and eyesight blur, Kelly has worked for 11 years and Paul has worked for 8. They are definitely not fresh grads. There are NO fresh grad ADs in MAS. Try MTI if you want to be a fresh grad AD.
Yea, just to add - Kelly doesn't look right to me. She says on her profile that she was an AD since leaving school 11 years ago. If that's really accurate, she must have really screwed it up badly to be stuck without a promotion for so long. Most likely she simply updated her job title to last held and skipped the associate part.

Not sure how Paul Ho is relevant to. The guy spend 4.5 years as an analyst and senior executive before getting the AD job.

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bro.. don't be jealous. accept and embrace that you are less talented than that fresh grad who becomes an AD. This fresh grad can be a FCH with esteemed scholarship, done community work and worked both at an MNC and a ministry as an intern during his uni.
Are you dumb or illiterate? There is no fresh grad AD in the whole of MAS, like what other posters have already mentioned. Anyone who tells you otherwise, feel free to ask him to message me through office communicator to discuss. I will check it out with the head of HR as we usually meet on Thursdays for a coffee break.


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Is SMU high merit considered a pass degree or Honour degree in civil service??


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How is SMU Gpa system remunerated in civil service
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Hi I am a fresh grad from NUS, Computer Science, NS and Second Upper Honors.

I received an offer from a GLC doing healthcare IT projects for government. Annual Package is roughly S$ 68000 including all bonus and AWS and other benefits. That's considered quite decent for fresh grad.

However I also received Citi's offer a technology analyst (Back Office in Changi Business Park)for their training program. Their annual package is S$59000 with all things included. It's still quite good package but the place is full of FTs and Indians.

Which one do I choose?
In terms of starting pay, GLC pays 9000 more than Citibank. But what about in 5 years time? I heard GLC and Civil Service very hard to prompt one grade and based on what I saw from previous 500 pages, yearly increment is S$200 for average performers.

Plus, say I choose GLC eventually. Then if I want to jump ship in the future, where can I jump to? Citibank technology analyst can jump around DBS, UOB, OCBC even to J.P.Morgan if lucky. But where can GLC Healthcare IT people go?

Please kindly give me some thoughtful advice. Thank you.
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Hi I am a fresh grad from NUS, Computer Science, NS and Second Upper Honors.

I received an offer from a GLC doing healthcare IT projects for government. Annual Package is roughly S$ 68000 including all bonus and AWS and other benefits. That's considered quite decent for fresh grad.

However I also received Citi's offer a technology analyst (Back Office in Changi Business Park)for their training program. Their annual package is S$59000 with all things included. It's still quite good package but the place is full of FTs and Indians.

Which one do I choose?
In terms of starting pay, GLC pays 9000 more than Citibank. But what about in 5 years time? I heard GLC and Civil Service very hard to prompt one grade and based on what I saw from previous 500 pages, yearly increment is S$200 for average performers.

Plus, say I choose GLC eventually. Then if I want to jump ship in the future, where can I jump to? Citibank technology analyst can jump around DBS, UOB, OCBC even to J.P.Morgan if lucky. But where can GLC Healthcare IT people go?

Please kindly give me some thoughtful advice. Thank you.
ihis? that much? whats your monthly salary?

citibank is really bad, and you will have a miserable time with colleagues. Go work in glc for 3-5 years then jumpship, pay will be much higher.
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Hi I am a fresh grad from NUS, Computer Science, NS and Second Upper Honors.

I received an offer from a GLC doing healthcare IT projects for government. Annual Package is roughly S$ 68000 including all bonus and AWS and other benefits. That's considered quite decent for fresh grad.

However I also received Citi's offer a technology analyst (Back Office in Changi Business Park)for their training program. Their annual package is S$59000 with all things included. It's still quite good package but the place is full of FTs and Indians.

Which one do I choose?
In terms of starting pay, GLC pays 9000 more than Citibank. But what about in 5 years time? I heard GLC and Civil Service very hard to prompt one grade and based on what I saw from previous 500 pages, yearly increment is S$200 for average performers.

Plus, say I choose GLC eventually. Then if I want to jump ship in the future, where can I jump to? Citibank technology analyst can jump around DBS, UOB, OCBC even to J.P.Morgan if lucky. But where can GLC Healthcare IT people go?

Please kindly give me some thoughtful advice. Thank you.
This is a no-brainer. Take Citi. Your exit opps are worlds apart compared to taking up the GLC offer. As much as Citi's reputation has taken a hit in the aftermath of the global financial crisis, they are still an eminent brand to have on your CV.
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Hi I am a fresh grad from NUS, Computer Science, NS and Second Upper Honors.

I received an offer from a GLC doing healthcare IT projects for government. Annual Package is roughly S$ 68000 including all bonus and AWS and other benefits. That's considered quite decent for fresh grad.

However I also received Citi's offer a technology analyst (Back Office in Changi Business Park)for their training program. Their annual package is S$59000 with all things included. It's still quite good package but the place is full of FTs and Indians.

Which one do I choose?
In terms of starting pay, GLC pays 9000 more than Citibank. But what about in 5 years time? I heard GLC and Civil Service very hard to prompt one grade and based on what I saw from previous 500 pages, yearly increment is S$200 for average performers.

Plus, say I choose GLC eventually. Then if I want to jump ship in the future, where can I jump to? Citibank technology analyst can jump around DBS, UOB, OCBC even to J.P.Morgan if lucky. But where can GLC Healthcare IT people go?

Please kindly give me some thoughtful advice. Thank you.
hi, i worked in a glc as well, although my annual package isn't as high as yours....I jumped to jpmorgan after a few years and am working in credit suisse now. I would advise to steer clear from banks, especially citi, uob, ocbc, hsbc, the prospects and work environment isn't good. If you are interested in working with wealth management, i do recommend ubs, sachs, merrill lynch, credit suisse, jpmorgan etc. They don't hire fresh graduates, but a couple years in glc would serve u well.
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