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Old 23-07-2015, 09:14 AM
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I would ask for others not to assume that a civil svc job involves long lunches, many pantry and kopi breaks etc. i am in a policy role and work 930 to 830pm five days a week. Urgent work still needs to be tended to over the weekends. There is also the usual red tape, pushing around of work and decisions by other divs, turf guarding, bosses taking out their frustrations on you etc. Take it as justifications for the salary.
This is really true, my friends working in stat board also have to do OT and have to come back on weekend to do work as well. Also since many people think civil servant are overpaid, why not join the public sector? Could be because many sour grapes here since they got reject by the public sector.

Certainly, many people may say that aiya those go public sector starting pay high nia, after that those in pvt sector can easily triumph over them. Yes, it is true for some, and that is very very little. most, I mean more than 70% of the people are earning less than even with rich experience under their belt.

So is up to you guys to carry on this argument about which one is good and etc. Because it wont affect anyone's salary even you with this keyboard warrior war hahahaha

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Old 23-07-2015, 09:43 AM
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Its strange - why are there not more people applying to CS if thats the perception?
Doesn't make monetary sense to sux in the underpaid (by comparison) job in private sector.
Many sour grapes who couldn't get in and hence get jealous.

High flyers perform well anywhere, be it private or public sector. Low performers perform poorly anywhere, be it private or public sector. However public sector is slightly more tolerant of poor performers, like the guy earning 6k after 10 years in CS. Even in private sector it only takes 6-7 years to hit 6k.

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Old 23-07-2015, 09:52 AM
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However public sector is slightly more tolerant of poor performers, like the guy earning 6k after 10 years in CS. Even in private sector it only takes 6-7 years to hit 6k.
I would like to know what industries are you referring to and what kind of positions. And stop talking about monthly salaries but annual package.

Eg.
CS: $6k x 17 mths = $102k
Pte: $7k x 14 mths = $98k

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u forgot not everyone is on the same scale. 6k after 10 years means i need to get $50 increment every year from my current salary. we know that's impossible.
again, another person who dont read and assume and i really wonder about the 'scholar' status.

First, it is true not all ministries and SB paid the same and not everyone start on the same scale; certain SB that requires very specific set of skills (e.g. DSTA, MAS) have much higher STARTING salaries than their counterparts to capture the 'talents' and also because certain positions are indeed NOT OPEN to FT. but eventually, they even up because of different pay adjustment criteria.

In GENERAL (and I meant around 90% of CS), and if i want to be generous, 85% of CS are getting 'average' pay benchmark against their counterparts but never as high as what most people said here. It is actually bad karma to paint an over-nice image for people in CS because people might be jealous of those in CS but they really do not earn that much and yet OT alot.

N LOL at that idiot saying that MOST people can reach 6-7k in 7 years in private sector. Must have been earning 3k himself after 10 years and wanting EVERYONE to feel as bad as him.
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N LOL at that idiot saying that MOST people can reach 6-7k in 7 years in private sector. Must have been earning 3k himself after 10 years and wanting EVERYONE to feel as bad as him.
lol who cant read, he didnt say MOST. nowadays generation is different from old generation, 6-7k after 7 years is possible for the average grad. hdb last time only 100k, now its 300k. stop comparing with pay of the previous generation. grad still earn 3k after 10 years? might as well have gone to poly.
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Old 26-07-2015, 12:11 PM
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Hi guys.. for an applicant with a second lower Hons. applying for a stat board entry level/assistant manager position, what would be an ideal monthly salary range and annual salary (if im not wrong, this includes components such as 13th month bonus, etc.) such that its not too far off what the HR is willing to offer? Thanks in advance! @@
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Hi guys.. for an applicant with a second lower Hons. applying for a stat board entry level/assistant manager position, what would be an ideal monthly salary range and annual salary (if im not wrong, this includes components such as 13th month bonus, etc.) such that its not too far off what the HR is willing to offer? Thanks in advance! @@
left out* second lower Hons degree from nus
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left out* second lower Hons degree from nus
fresh graduate with ns?

LTA pass degree with ns - 3.4k
MOH second lower with ns - 3497

annual salary = monthly x15.5 or x16 (be conservative)

if its me i will just put 3.4k or even 3.3k... at the end of the day, they will offer you base on your qualification, and will not overpay/underpay u bcos of wat you stated in your expected salary.

if female, minus 200-300 from the monthly figures.
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fresh graduate with ns?

LTA pass degree with ns - 3.4k
MOH second lower with ns - 3497

annual salary = monthly x15.5 or x16 (be conservative)

if its me i will just put 3.4k or even 3.3k... at the end of the day, they will offer you base on your qualification, and will not overpay/underpay u bcos of wat you stated in your expected salary.

if female, minus 200-300 from the monthly figures.
Thanks for advice!
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Old 26-07-2015, 08:52 PM
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I know someone working in Ministry of Culture and Youth.
Base salary around 3.1k per month and shocking: around 1k allowance a month.
She is a fresh grad with 2nd lower honors nus.

Is the allowances normal?!?!?!
And do all ministries give it and for what???
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