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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Depends.

Does your director like you?
Are you smart or at least appear to be smart?
Do you speak and present well?
Do you speak up at meetings with senior management?
Does senior management have a good impression of you?

Thanks for your prompt reply.

If the relationship with supervisors and engagement with senior management is alright, what kind of opportunities are there to progress beyond one's current grade?

From the colloquial lingo used, I believe you are a fellow civil / public servant as well. Would you mind sharing your experiences and the pitfalls to avoid for a smoother career path?

May I also clarify if you are handling policy-related portfolio too?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for your prompt reply.

If the relationship with supervisors and engagement with senior management is alright, what kind of opportunities are there to progress beyond one's current grade?

From the colloquial lingo used, I believe you are a fellow civil / public servant as well. Would you mind sharing your experiences and the pitfalls to avoid for a smoother career path?

May I also clarify if you are handling policy-related portfolio too?

Coming to 9 years in CS. All my postings so far have been policy portfolios except for one many years back that was semi-operational (which I hated).

First and foremost, do your core work well. Everything else is secondary.

Other opportunities:

(1) Get involved in interdiv/agency committees, whether work-related or "ECA", e.g. those on OD/BE/CSR - these provide good platforms for other bosses to know you as the committees are usually chaired by a director not from your division

(2) Accept appointments when offered, e.g. snr mgt meeting secy, staffing snr mgt trips, COS secy (although in most cases, it's not really for the staff to turn it down anyway, unless there is a good reason, like going away on maternity leave)

(3) Attend tea sessions with snr mgt when invited, but neither be an attention whore nor blend into the background at the session

Pitfalls to AVOID:

(1) Backstabbing your peers - what goes around, comes around; and you need allies, not enemies, to build your career

(2) Appearing too eager to please or impress your bosses - most ppl can tell when someone is trying too hard to suck up or impress

(3) Trying to always outdo or outshine your immediate supervisor (especially if he is not too far from you in job grade) - it will not help your career if your immediate supervisor tries to stifle your progress because he feels intimidated and insecure

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lucky you. I graduated from a private degree last year, started job search 6 months ago and have yet to get any interview calls from ministries for a grad position. What ministry is it?

CS will employ pvt degree holders for grad post meh?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

CS will employ pvt degree holders for grad post meh?

If you graduate from unisim, although it is private uni but it's regarded as local 6th university. As for other private uni, i am not sure. One thing i sure is sim those dl with 1.5yrs or 2yrs duration are able to secure the graduate position, i don't know why also.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Coming to 9 years in CS. All my postings so far have been policy portfolios except for one many years back that was semi-operational (which I hated).

First and foremost, do your core work well. Everything else is secondary.

Other opportunities:

(1) Get involved in interdiv/agency committees, whether work-related or "ECA", e.g. those on OD/BE/CSR - these provide good platforms for other bosses to know you as the committees are usually chaired by a director not from your division

(2) Accept appointments when offered, e.g. snr mgt meeting secy, staffing snr mgt trips, COS secy (although in most cases, it's not really for the staff to turn it down anyway, unless there is a good reason, like going away on maternity leave)

(3) Attend tea sessions with snr mgt when invited, but neither be an attention whore nor blend into the background at the session

Pitfalls to AVOID:

(1) Backstabbing your peers - what goes around, comes around; and you need allies, not enemies, to build your career

(2) Appearing too eager to please or impress your bosses - most ppl can tell when someone is trying too hard to suck up or impress

(3) Trying to always outdo or outshine your immediate supervisor (especially if he is not too far from you in job grade) - it will not help your career if your immediate supervisor tries to stifle your progress because he feels intimidated and insecure

Hi Morning,

Thanks again for the comprehensive insights.

Just a few more clarification below for your inputs:

(I) May I know if you are from a economics or business background?

(II) Given your varied exposure to different portfolios, does it takes u less than 3 years to obtain your MX11? On this note, how much further did u take to reach the next grade (I assume you are MX10 now)?

(III) How are your hours like throughout the years you are with your Ministry?

(IV) Does secondments and postings give a boost to one's CEP?

Once again, thank you for taking time to address my queries.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you graduate from unisim, although it is private uni but it's regarded as local 6th university. As for other private uni, i am not sure. One thing i sure is sim those dl with 1.5yrs or 2yrs duration are able to secure the graduate position, i don't know why also.

may i know what are my chances of entering CS with an UniSIM pass degree? not the DL ones like RMIT / UOL / etc. is UniSIM recognised as local / private cert in CS?

heard competition for entry to CS very stiff nowadays due to bad economy and lack of work life balance in the private sector.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi Morning,

Thanks again for the comprehensive insights.

Just a few more clarification below for your inputs:

(I) May I know if you are from a economics or business background?

(II) Given your varied exposure to different portfolios, does it takes u less than 3 years to obtain your MX11? On this note, how much further did u take to reach the next grade (I assume you are MX10 now)?

(III) How are your hours like throughout the years you are with your Ministry?

(IV) Does secondments and postings give a boost to one's CEP?

Once again, thank you for taking time to address my queries.

(I) No

(II) 4 years from entry level to MX11. Then 4 more years to MX10.

(III) No fixed hours but v common to work late nights and weekends at home.

(IV) Not really. The key is to perform well at the organisation where you are appraised and ranked. Sometimes being seconded can work against you if you fall out of snr mgt's radar.

[temp111]

People who are promoted this year, have u guys already checked how much increment u all getting? Coz I check only got normal yearly increment in pac gov but not merit increment.

Originally Posted by temp111

People who are promoted this year, have u guys already checked how much increment u all getting? Coz I check only got normal yearly increment in pac gov but not merit increment.

I thought increment was in Apr? You from stat board? Which stat board? What is your substantive grade? How much you earning now? How much is the normal yearly increment shown in pac gov?

Hi all,

I am fresh grad from NTU engineering (2nd lower)

What should be the yearly package to expect for first job?
Maybe top tier = defense/finance related (DSTA/MAS)

Monthly 3.4K, 16 months = 55K PA?
How will the career progression be like for the next few years?