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Unregistered 19-04-2015 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65634)
It's not that it's independent of performance. It's just that most govt agencies give you the default grade in the first year because they aren't able to fully assess performance.

Nonetheless you will get a performance bonus based on this default grade aka C. There are instances where officers are ranked in their first year but it really depends on their reporting officers' choice and the month which they joined. Let's say they joined in Jan - quite likely they would be explicitly ranked. However if they joined in Jun, then it's highly unlikely that they would be explicitly ranked.

What if u join in like april or may? I mean is there a standardized cutoff date that u may be entitled to B and above if u continue to perform well?

Unregistered 19-04-2015 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65634)
It's not that it's independent of performance. It's just that most govt agencies give you the default grade in the first year because they aren't able to fully assess performance.

Nonetheless you will get a performance bonus based on this default grade aka C. There are instances where officers are ranked in their first year but it really depends on their reporting officers' choice and the month which they joined. Let's say they joined in Jan - quite likely they would be explicitly ranked. However if they joined in Jun, then it's highly unlikely that they would be explicitly ranked.

may i know what is the typical range for a C grade?

Unregistered 19-04-2015 12:38 AM

btw, my first bonus will come in after april (exactly 1 year after I join), will that be explicitly ranked?

Unregistered 19-04-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65638)
What if u join in like april or may? I mean is there a standardized cutoff date that u may be entitled to B and above if u continue to perform well?

I've not heard of any standardized rule but there should be at least 6 months of observable performance before an officer is explicitly ranked. Ranking exercise typically begins in Sep. Some agencies do it slightly earlier, some slightly later.

Even if you are explicitly ranked, it's also quite likely that you would get a C unless you are quite a stellar performer.

The PB given for C grade depends on your agency and the Band which you are in. Eg. C in mx12 will give you less pb than C in mx11.

Unregistered 20-04-2015 09:27 AM

Huge backlog of orders means COE likely to stay high: Analysts

By Xue Jianyue, TODAY
17 Apr 2015 07:18
URL: ://w w w.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/huge-backlog-of-orders/1789898.html

TODAY reports: Any drop in premiums is likely to be marginal in future bidding exercises, analysts and motor dealers say.

SINGAPORE: Despite the sharp rise in the COE quota for the next three months, those holding out for a reprieve from rising COE premiums are likely to be disappointed.

Any drop in premiums is likely to be marginal in future bidding exercises, analysts and motor dealers told TODAY.

A huge backlog of orders — many from owners of deregistered cars waiting for COE premiums to fall — will keep premiums high, said motor dealers, pointing to the large number of bids made by the end of the latest bidding exercise last week.

For example, more than 2,340 bids were made for only 988 small-car certificates, said Singapore Vehicle Traders Association (SVTA) honorary secretary Raymond Tang.

“There is still a lot of backlog in the market,” he said. “You have more than 14,000 COEs, but it is still not enough.”

Indeed, COE premiums have continued to climb despite the sizeable COE quota for February to April. The quota was the largest since last February until the latest crop announced on Thursday. Increases across the board were seen in the latest bidding exercise, with Open Category premiums at a 12-month high of S$78,000.

Customers are also rushing to buy vehicles before more stringent conditions kick in through rebates and surcharges under the Carbon Emissions-Based Vehicle Scheme (CEVS) on Jul 1, said CarTimes’ managing director Eddie Loo and SVTA president Neo Tiam Ting.

The CEVS is aimed at encouraging the purchase of low-carbon-emission vehicles. The carbon-dioxide limits will be lowered with the revision, which could mean rebate cuts or surcharge hikes.

“A lot are rushing in to register in order to get the higher rebate, and because of that, the actual drop in premiums will not be much,” said Mr Neo.

Currently, COE quotas are determined by the allowed annual vehicle growth rate of 0.25 per cent, the number of vehicle deregistrations, adjustments for changes in the taxi population, replacement of commercial vehicles under the Early Turnover Scheme and expired COEs.

Vehicle deregistrations make up the bulk of supply.

With many buyers unaware of these reasons and rushing in to bid, they contribute to the high premiums they are hoping to avoid, said National University of Singapore transport analyst Lee Der Horng.

The link between COE quota numbers and deregistration will cause fluctuations in the market when deregistration numbers fall around 2019, a situation which is “not healthy” for motor dealers and customers, he said.

“Consumers may face greater uncertainty in COE premiums. Dealers will need to adjust business operations to accommodate this increased demand. After a few years, they will need to slim down. What they want to have is a stable COE supply,” said Professor Lee.

Although the increase in COEs presents dealers with increased sales opportunities, dealers said they were mindful of pushing sales too aggressively with steep discounts.

“No point selling and not being able to deliver the car. It doesn’t look good on the car agent,” said Mr Loo.

Unregistered 20-04-2015 01:37 PM

My Personal Journey:

May 2012 - Graduated from NTU (First Class Honours)
Jun 2012 - MX13 = 3800 (Joined Ministry, Non-Scholar)
Mar 2013 - MX13 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade B)
Jun 2013 - MX12 = 4300 (Promoted)
Feb 2014 - Placed on Permanent Establishment
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 3.0 mth Performance Bonus (Grade A)
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 4755 (Merit Increment)
Apr 2014 - MX11 = 5025 (Promoted)
Aug 2014 - MX11 = 5275 (Salary Adjustment)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade C+)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 5640 (Merit Increment)

ingenieur 20-04-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65696)
My Personal Journey:

May 2012 - Graduated from NTU (First Class Honours)
Jun 2012 - MX13 = 3800 (Joined Ministry, Non-Scholar)
Mar 2013 - MX13 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade B)
Jun 2013 - MX12 = 4300 (Promoted)
Feb 2014 - Placed on Permanent Establishment
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 3.0 mth Performance Bonus (Grade A)
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 4755 (Merit Increment)
Apr 2014 - MX11 = 5025 (Promoted)
Aug 2014 - MX11 = 5275 (Salary Adjustment)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade C+)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 5640 (Merit Increment)

looks legit.
but took you close to 2 years to make the permanent personnel list!
is that the norm nowadays?

Unregistered 20-04-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65696)
My Personal Journey:

May 2012 - Graduated from NTU (First Class Honours)
Jun 2012 - MX13 = 3800 (Joined Ministry, Non-Scholar)
Mar 2013 - MX13 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade B)
Jun 2013 - MX12 = 4300 (Promoted)
Feb 2014 - Placed on Permanent Establishment
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 3.0 mth Performance Bonus (Grade A)
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 4755 (Merit Increment)
Apr 2014 - MX11 = 5025 (Promoted)
Aug 2014 - MX11 = 5275 (Salary Adjustment)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade C+)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 5640 (Merit Increment)

Is this your base monthly salary or did you divide your annual package by 12?

Unregistered 20-04-2015 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65696)
My Personal Journey:

May 2012 - Graduated from NTU (First Class Honours)
Jun 2012 - MX13 = 3800 (Joined Ministry, Non-Scholar)
Mar 2013 - MX13 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade B)
Jun 2013 - MX12 = 4300 (Promoted)
Feb 2014 - Placed on Permanent Establishment
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 3.0 mth Performance Bonus (Grade A)
Mar 2014 - MX12 = 4755 (Merit Increment)
Apr 2014 - MX11 = 5025 (Promoted)
Aug 2014 - MX11 = 5275 (Salary Adjustment)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 2.5 mth Performance Bonus (Grade C+)
Mar 2015 - MX11 = 5640 (Merit Increment)

with NS or non-NS?

WoW, With slightly less than 3 years exp, Salary jump from 3800 to 5640 with double promotion!!

I join my GLC at 2900(2.2 with NS) since 2007, it will take me 12 years(2019) for me to hit 5.6k basic, assuming I got "B" for every year.....-_-

Unregistered 20-04-2015 06:25 PM

is the starting pay the same for all ministries?


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