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Old 18-09-2014, 07:28 PM
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lol. Increment gets really small when you edge nearer to ceiling. For example, you may get 50 bucks increment if you are like S$300- 400 away from ceiling. So it will be years before u actually hit ceiling. fyi pls.
I thought that this is the case only if the ceiling of your grade is the same as our CEP grade?

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Old 18-09-2014, 09:13 PM
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Was deciding to join the marine industry on civil service.. seems like civil services is a better choice after all.

Marine industry offer 2400 to 2600..

Civil service starting pay is about 3100-3700 already...
Be forewarned, as in earlier posts, that the idiotic bureaucracy can drive you up the wall. You might quit in frustration, never know.

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Not worried lah. I think still can get promoted.

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lol. Increment gets really small when you edge nearer to ceiling. For example, you may get 50 bucks increment if you are like S$300- 400 away from ceiling. So it will be years before u actually hit ceiling. fyi pls.

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I thought that this is the case only if the ceiling of your grade is the same as our CEP grade?
not so. Everything is smooth until you hit MX11. Coz not enough senior management positions. the churn is usually at the executive levels (AD, SMs and below). DD and Directors hardly move. Even if they do move, the positions are reserved for scholars. They call this the ROA positions.
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not so. Everything is smooth until you hit MX11. Coz not enough senior management positions. the churn is usually at the executive levels (AD, SMs and below). DD and Directors hardly move. Even if they do move, the positions are reserved for scholars. They call this the ROA positions.
Hmm so do you reckon whether this happens at mx11 or mx11a?

Mx10 onwards are considered as senior management grades?
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Hmm so do you reckon whether this happens at mx11 or mx11a?

Mx10 onwards are considered as senior management grades?
In my opinion, MX10 (SAD/DD) is a middle management position.
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Was deciding to join the marine industry on civil service.. seems like civil services is a better choice after all.

Marine industry offer 2400 to 2600..

Civil service starting pay is about 3100-3700 already...

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Be forewarned, as in earlier posts, that the idiotic bureaucracy can drive you up the wall. You might quit in frustration, never know.
no brainer.. join the CS.

you must know that the marine/shipping industry is generally down in the dumps and not glamorous. the local listed marine companies are very highly leveraged and bonuses are not fantastic.

marine/shipping MNCs on local terms are not much better..... unless you are on an expat package.
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In my opinion, MX10 (SAD/DD) is a middle management position.
I've heard that there are some at mx10 who do not have to lead teams (no supervisory duties). Is it true?
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I've heard that there are some at mx10 who do not have to lead teams (no supervisory duties). Is it true?
not likely. If true, this is not a good sign, says you are a lone ranger whose leadership skills are suspect. Same with mx11 or mx11a, but less omnious.
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Is it true that CS/PS focus on the honours that an applicant has?

I'm 35, currently earning 8.5k with pass degree. But regardless of what position I applied for, from senior executive to DD level, none got back to me.

Anyone knows?
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