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Old 26-05-2014, 10:20 PM
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give us a break. most of our offices in the sururbs are a world away from the posh slanky outfits you get at MBFC and raffles. environment plays a big part in one's career too. the majority of my colleagues at work are almost double my age and have the very lepak attitude at work. again, a world away from the hustle and bustle training i experienced while at biz school in uni. I have to admit one of the key drivers making me come to work everyday is the stability and the generous yearly package. Beyond that, its just like any other day job. of course when i come across a better (public sector) position with a nicer environment and more balanced gender ratio i'll gladly pack my bags and jump ship.
not really, IE Singapore at Bugis, STB at Tanglin, A*Star at Fusionopolis, etc etc have pretty nice offices.

save for those working in banks, law firms, accounting firms, insurance, big shipping firms and other MNCs, most other people work really out in the suburbs where the stat board/ministry are not located. if you think that working in non-town offices is a reason for you to earn more, then a lot of people deserve a high salary too!

nowadays i only ever hear of fresh grads talking about what class of hons they have in order to get a cushy govt job... no wonder we get inundated with FTs in the other sectors..

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Old 26-05-2014, 10:59 PM
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Haha sadly those you mentioned are the more posh and glam ministries/stat boards where the OLs are usually at.

I'm from a 2nd tier, operations-centric stat board. The age of the organisation plays a part too because those people who joined the stat board in their youth are likely to still be working with the same place right now.. and... age-ing and antique-fying the entire place along with them.

Recently I applied to some other ministries and stat boards and saw the light. Now waiting to see if i've gone through to the 2nd round. wish me luck!



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Haha sadly those you mentioned are the more posh and glam ministries/stat boards where the OLs are usually at.

I'm from a 2nd tier, operations-centric stat board. The age of the organisation plays a part too because those people who joined the stat board in their youth are likely to still be working with the same place right now.. and... age-ing and antique-fying the entire place along with them.

Recently I applied to some other ministries and stat boards and saw the light. Now waiting to see if i've gone through to the 2nd round. wish me luck!
u got me at OL.

all the best anyway.

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Old 28-05-2014, 09:06 PM
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I refer to my previous post and decided to raise another query after poring through all entries in this thread.

Do I need to be mindful of the inherent job grades associated with the job vacancies during my application in order to be considered for a post that is commensurate with my experience?

For instance, if I were to unwittingly submit my application for an entry level post, which sometimes might not be readily discernible from the appointment title, does that imply that any offer given would definitely pegged to the MX13/12 level, or would it be adjusted according to my years of working experience?

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Hi Esteemed Forumers,

I'm in the midst of considering a mid-career switch to the public service.

Having experienced the vicissitudes of my career progression in the private sector, where I've been short changed, thrown into the deep end of the pool and left to my own devices in an extremely stagnant environment, the stability and security of a public service career appeals to me.

My background:
- Diploma with Merit in Mechanical Engineering (Top student, received LKY Award).

- Overseas scholarship awarded by a statutory board in collaboration with an industry partner.

- 1st Class BEng (Hons) in Mechanical Engineering UMIST, UK. (Top student, top university project).

- MSc Mechanical Engineering, NUS.

- Original arrangement was for me to serve my 6 year bond with the said industry partner. However, they decided to cease their operations in Singapore before my graduation. At that juncture, the statutory board immediately intervened and I made a conscious decision to have my bond transferred to a semiconductor company for industrial exposure and practice instead of taking up the offer to join the statutory board.

- Spent 6 years engaging in semiconductor technology development and systems strategy and design.

- Current annual package is a very modest $55000 (includes AWS + less than 2 months bonus).

- Now exploring public service opportunities in policy formulation, organisational development or research and analysis.

Queries
1) Would my background and experience be deemed unattractive or irrelevant to public agencies?

2) Also, I would like to hear everyone's comments on whether my current unattractive package would undermine the terms of any offer that I might receive from the public service agencies.

3) What would be the likely job grade and pay package that I should expect?


Cheers & Thanks!
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I refer to my previous post and decided to raise another query after poring through all entries in this thread.

Do I need to be mindful of the inherent job grades associated with the job vacancies during my application in order to be considered for a post that is commensurate with my experience?

For instance, if I were to unwittingly submit my application for an entry level post, which sometimes might not be readily discernible from the appointment title, does that imply that any offer given would definitely pegged to the MX13/12 level, or would it be adjusted according to my years of working experience?
I'm not sure about others, but for the stat board I'm in does offer grades and salary according to experience.

When i just join, I saw a lady applied same job position and because of her past experience and was offered the senior position. Before that she was from a private company.
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I was previously from a private company that was pretty fast paced and i can run things pretty much on my own as long as work gets done smoothly.

Recently, I joined a ministry and have been there for about a few months already. Still under culture shock and having a tough time adjusting to the top-down hierarchy, the slower pace of work and the quietness (dullness??) of the work environment.... just wondering if it is a norm for new civil servants, who were previously from pte sector, to experience culture shock for a period of time?

Any1 who couldn't adapt to the civil service environment and returned back to pte sector in a short span of time?

Thanks for the sharing!
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I refer to my previous post and decided to raise another query after poring through all entries in this thread.

Do I need to be mindful of the inherent job grades associated with the job vacancies during my application in order to be considered for a post that is commensurate with my experience?

For instance, if I were to unwittingly submit my application for an entry level post, which sometimes might not be readily discernible from the appointment title, does that imply that any offer given would definitely pegged to the MX13/12 level, or would it be adjusted according to my years of working experience?
Seriously... After asking so many questions, you still have not taken any action. In life one cannot expect to know everything beforehand. You must DO and not just sit around thinking of hypothetical scenarios. The outcome for each individual person would be unique to your experience and circumstances.

Just apply. Then you will know what you are worth and what to do about it.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:53 PM
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Hi all,

I am 29 this yr, and have been working in stat board as Executive (fresh grad) for 3yrs+ le. Private degree, and is drawing 3.3K+. Going to promote this coming July, any know the salary range for Senior Executive? and roughly how much increment to expect?

Last but not least, am i doing well?
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Hi all,

I am 29 this yr, and have been working in stat board as Executive (fresh grad) for 3yrs+ le. Private degree, and is drawing 3.3K+. Going to promote this coming July, any know the salary range for Senior Executive? and roughly how much increment to expect?

Last but not least, am i doing well?
You're doing well. Are you married?
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You're doing well. Are you married?
Not yet... haha. But u know roughly how much is the increment from Exe to S.Exe?
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