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Old 09-03-2014, 01:43 PM
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Sound like someone who doesn't understand civil service progression. A fresh grad may hit $5K at age 30 cos he/she starts at early 20s. But judging from his increment of ~$500 each yr (quite consistently), I think he can hit MX9 well before 50. If lucky, may even hit MX8 in mid 50s.

But would like to hear from other experts, in case I give him false advice.

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Those who joined as fresh grad would have hit 5k at the age of about 30.

Not scholar. Not exceptional performer. No chance.
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I've a friend who joined MX specialist scheme mid-career. His basic pay is like

Age 35 start - $4.8K
36 - $5.1K
37 - $5.7K
38 - $6.1K
39 - $6.6K
40 - $7.1K

In addition, I heard he's like getting 4.25 - 4.75 months of all-in bonuses each year. Consistent C+ and B performer.

How is he progressing compared to those who joined since fresh grad? What would be his expected CEP e.g. got chance to reach superscale grade?

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Sound like someone who doesn't understand civil service progression. A fresh grad may hit $5K at age 30 cos he/she starts at early 20s. But judging from his increment of ~$500 each yr (quite consistently), I think he can hit MX9 well before 50. If lucky, may even hit MX8 in mid 50s.

But would like to hear from other experts, in case I give him false advice.
???

join as fresh grad. 5 yrs of work exp: 5k

poster's case (assuming male grad). 10 yrs of work exp:5k

wat is ur point?

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join as fresh grad. 5 yrs of work exp: 5k

poster's case (assuming male grad). 10 yrs of work exp:5k

wat is ur point?
It's the long term end that matters, not short term start. Civil service generally won't give mid career entrants equal pay to their same age peers i.e. untested etc. But can catch up very fast if proven potential and performance.

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Hi all,
Should i decide to do a mid career change, will cs still look at my honours and pay me according or isit purely work experience based? I understand that for fresh grad, they do pay by hons.

another question, isit possible to join the civil service again should i had not fulfilled the 2 year contract with my previous employer, which is also part of public service?
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It's the long term end that matters, not short term start. Civil service generally won't give mid career entrants equal pay to their same age peers i.e. untested etc. But can catch up very fast if proven potential and performance.
is consistent C+ and B considered proven potential and performance?
his 500+ increment could be merely playing catching up to compensate his 15 years of work experience.

it seems overly optimistic to think he can hit MX9 and MX8 jus bcos of that.
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is consistent C+ and B considered proven potential and performance?
his 500+ increment could be merely playing catching up to compensate his 15 years of work experience.

it seems overly optimistic to think he can hit MX9 and MX8 jus bcos of that.
Well, of coz, nothing is guaranteed, not even your job. But at least, he is not disadvantaged and stand a chance. He privately told me that his MX7 PSC scholar boss has earmarked him to be the top MX specialist in his organisation during the review. After studying his past records, I think his boss is not bullshitting him.
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Hey all, I am going to grad from NTU sociology very soon and might be looking to join the cs. What ministries or stat boards would be favourable for me? And what would my progression be like if i stay for the long term and an a average performer. Able to hit DD or even D? Currently 2nd upper, close to first class honours and if everything goes well, i might be able to achieve the latter. Thank you all for the advice. Cheers.
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Well, of coz, nothing is guaranteed, not even your job. But at least, he is not disadvantaged and stand a chance. He privately told me that his MX7 PSC scholar boss has earmarked him to be the top MX specialist in his organisation during the review. After studying his past records, I think his boss is not bullshitting him.
MX7 in ministry = Dy PS or even PS?
In my stat board MX7 equivalent is the Chief Executive (CEO).
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MX7 in ministry = Dy PS or even PS?
In my stat board MX7 equivalent is the Chief Executive (CEO).
Just want to point out that for those that are not on any programme, they will most likely retire at MX 10 (MX 9 for exceptional performers). This holds true for scholars or non scholars alike. MX 8 and below are solely reserved for those on admin service scheme, which is hard even for scholars to enter.
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for those who are in ministries, has anyone been informed whether you will be promoted this year in Apr? Heard that PSD has informed the HRs of ministries and now just a matter of deseminating the news.
Ya, the news is out. Sianz, no news for me this yr, gotta wait again. Anyone got promoted this year? Can share how long did u wait from your previous promotion? I'm in MX12 and have "waited" 3yrs.... Any advice what I can do to shorten my wait?
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