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Old 15-06-2013, 09:25 PM
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hmm.. if pte experience is hardly relevant, why I am I offered MX11 then? but salary not yet proposed to me. wonder why?

by the way, i think cs offers good work life balance and the regarding the point on scholars i think even in pte sector they exists as well so no diff.

anyone knows the min salary for MX11?

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hmm.. if pte experience is hardly relevant, why I am I offered MX11 then? but salary not yet proposed to me. wonder why?

by the way, i think cs offers good work life balance and the regarding the point on scholars i think even in pte sector they exists as well so no diff.

anyone knows the min salary for MX11?
MX11 is just about 1.5 grade above entry level (new grads starts at MX13 and convert to MX12 in about 1/2 year's time). That just means that they've cut your experience into half. Every job has some transferable skills. It's not possible for them to offer mid-careers with over 5 yrs MX12 as it's the grade for entry levels with 1-2 year's experience. Entry level MX11 make about high 4k to low 5k.

Having been in a ministry myself, the stress level is actually higher than you think - you are directly serving the minister's politican's demand (through the PS and DSs) and my colleagues are constantly on the lookout to respond to e-mails/request even in the weekends/evenings.

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hmm.. if pte experience is hardly relevant, why I am I offered MX11 then? but salary not yet proposed to me. wonder why?

by the way, i think cs offers good work life balance and the regarding the point on scholars i think even in pte sector they exists as well so no diff.

anyone knows the min salary for MX11?
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MX11 is just about 1.5 grade above entry level (new grads starts at MX13 and convert to MX12 in about 1/2 year's time). That just means that they've cut your experience into half. Every job has some transferable skills. It's not possible for them to offer mid-careers with over 5 yrs MX12 as it's the grade for entry levels with 1-2 year's experience. Entry level MX11 make about high 4k to low 5k.

Having been in a ministry myself, the stress level is actually higher than you think - you are directly serving the minister's politican's demand (through the PS and DSs) and my colleagues are constantly on the lookout to respond to e-mails/request even in the weekends/evenings.
care to share which ministry u r referring to and a rough guide on the job scope? how do you access emails when you are out of office?
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care to share which ministry u r referring to and a rough guide on the job scope? how do you access emails when you are out of office?
All ministries are similar to each other and are considered CS, and the job scopes are very similar as well..common knowledge that all big enough organisations, whether private or public, would have VPN access
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MX11 is just about 1.5 grade above entry level (new grads starts at MX13 and convert to MX12 in about 1/2 year's time). That just means that they've cut your experience into half. Every job has some transferable skills. It's not possible for them to offer mid-careers with over 5 yrs MX12 as it's the grade for entry levels with 1-2 year's experience. Entry level MX11 make about high 4k to low 5k.

Having been in a ministry myself, the stress level is actually higher than you think - you are directly serving the minister's politican's demand (through the PS and DSs) and my colleagues are constantly on the lookout to respond to e-mails/request even in the weekends/evenings.
wondering how hr determines the grade to offer to candidates. they can't be offering grade based on years of experience per se? how about the candidate's current position, current salary?

would it be better to be appointed at a lower grade?
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just a word of caution for those who are switching into Ministries for better work-life balance, it may always be the case. VPN access is the bane of many civil servants. Guess why I'm still here at this hour?

When there's work to be done, you have to get it done. That said, some agencies have it better. For those more high-powered, central ministries, you really have to pull your weight along.
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hi anyone can advice for contract position in ministry is it common?
I got a call to go down for an interview for an admin n cs position min diploma, contract is 18mths, I asked HR after the contract got chance to turn perm? she ans no and I may also not be renew for the next contract.

anyone took up a contract position with gov b4?
any chance to be converted perm?
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Old 19-06-2013, 10:26 PM
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2011 Civil Service Salary Range

Job grade: MX9 (Superscale)
Job title: Deputy Director, Director
Pay scale: S$10,580 S$14,550 / S$14,551 S$16,540

Job grade: MX10
Job title: Assistant Director, Deputy Director
Pay scale: S$6,350 S$9,050 / S$9,051 S$10,400

Job grade: MX11
Job title: Manager, Assistant Director
Pay scale: S$4,100 S$6,160 / S$6,161 S$7,190

Job grade: MX12
Job title: Assistant Manager, Manager
Pay scale: S$2,550 S$5,130

Job grade: MX13
Job title: Management Executive
Pay scale: up to S$2,800 for fresh graduates


anyone has any updated info on the salary range ?? especially for the starting pay of MX11?
why are there two different levels e.g. Pay scale: S$4,100 S$6,160 / S$6,161 S$7,190

y not just $4100-$7190
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Old 20-06-2013, 12:59 AM
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for those crossing over from pte sector to civil service, get ready for work life balance!!

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just a word of caution for those who are switching into Ministries for better work-life balance, it may always be the case. VPN access is the bane of many civil servants. Guess why I'm still here at this hour?

When there's work to be done, you have to get it done. That said, some agencies have it better. For those more high-powered, central ministries, you really have to pull your weight along.
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