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Old 07-04-2013, 02:58 PM
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To be a real scholars, you won't apply for jobs. Many Agencies will invite u to join them. There're even special talks/invitation for this group.

For your case, default recruitment rule applies. To be fair, I've seen ppl with average or above-average credential absorbed into the elite AO scheme. One of the PSes (was an ex-policeman). But very, very rare cases. Trust me, you won't have time to come to this forum and keep posting.
What are AOs busy with? Attending cooking classes in Paris' Le Cordon Bleu?

I've seen them work. Trust me.

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if i joined a stat board, one of those under MTI, as a grad - 3.5-/3.6ish, what should i expect in 5 years time? (ill stop if i dun see an opportunity after the first 2 years). what salary should i forsee in 5 years time.

like whats the minimum increment i should expect each year...$200? or is that high

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Old 07-04-2013, 04:26 PM
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possible but not likely,esp for social sector. your loophole is at C grade. to be better than average i.e. high MX 11 near 7K at age 31, u'll need a high performance profile of (at least or higher than following)

MX12 at age X = B
MX 11 at age X+1 = B (promo)
MX 11 age X+2 = C+ (most likely)
MX 11 age X+3 = B
so on...

It's typical for average scholars at high profile agencies but not a norm for an average in average agencies
2008: C
2009: B
2010: B
2011: C
2012: B
2013: C

So now 6.1k at 31 years old lor.... just a bit shy of 100k/annum (if one takes into account average bonuses).

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2008: C - MX 13 or MX12? (promo here?)
2009: B - MX 12 (promo here?)
2010: B - MX 12
2011: C - promo here? MX 11?
2012: B - promo here? MX 11?
2013: C - current

So now 6.1k at 31 years old lor.... just a bit shy of 100k/annum (if one takes into account average bonuses).
I did some analysis for you. Even more loopholes. PG and MI doesn't look consistent to warrant a double in pay from 3K+ to 6K+ in 5 years. Promotion and PG pattern also look strange e.g. drastic drop in grading yet promoted in same or following yrs.
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if i joined a stat board, one of those under MTI, as a grad - 3.5-/3.6ish, what should i expect in 5 years time? (ill stop if i dun see an opportunity after the first 2 years). what salary should i forsee in 5 years time.

like whats the minimum increment i should expect each year...$200? or is that high
1) You're referring to EDB? It's high competitive to get in - not even sure if they have annual mass recruitment exercise like MHA or Mindef
2) MI and promo should be standard for most until 1st or 2nd promo - depend on schemes. After that, performance and responsibility based (e.g. handling high profile projects, report to "gods" directly etc)
3) From the way you write show your attitude and aptitude, I don't think you're suitable for public service e.g. chasing $$ and prestige instead of having a heart to serve the public. Most recruitment managers would sense it.


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I did some analysis for you. Even more loopholes. PG and MI doesn't look consistent to warrant a double in pay from 3K+ to 6K+ in 5 years. Promotion and PG pattern also look strange e.g. drastic drop in grading yet promoted in same or following yrs.
erm.. not looking for ego boost... what i mentioned is the truth. One would be more inclined to hao lian to people they know lah.... Added in the promotion year. Entered service in 2007 as a fresh grad to make your analysis easier.

2008: C (MX13 to MX12)
2009: B
2010: B (MX12 to MX 11)
2011: C
2012: B
2013: C
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erm.. not looking for ego boost... what i mentioned is the truth. One would be more inclined to hao lian to people they know lah.... Added in the promotion year. Entered service in 2007 as a fresh grad to make your analysis easier.

2008: C (MX13 to MX12)
2009: B
2010: B (MX12 to MX 11)
2011: C
2012: B
2013: C
you only took 3 years to jump 2 grades! what's your secret? hahaha
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The secret is blowing the trumpet. Nothing more than a tua kang kia.

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you only took 3 years to jump 2 grades! what's your secret? hahaha
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erm.. not looking for ego boost... what i mentioned is the truth. One would be more inclined to hao lian to people they know lah.... Added in the promotion year. Entered service in 2007 as a fresh grad to make your analysis easier.

2008: C (MX13 to MX12)
2009: B
2010: B (MX12 to MX 11)
2011: C
2012: B
2013: C
u r trying to misled ppl regarding civil service... i got many friends in civil service and also ave performers like u... worked for ard 4 yrs n still just slightly above 4k... u think in 2 yrs time they can get 2k increment (most of them r 2nd upper)...
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u r trying to misled ppl regarding civil service... i got many friends in civil service and also ave performers like u... worked for ard 4 yrs n still just slightly above 4k... u think in 2 yrs time they can get 2k increment (most of them r 2nd upper)...

Agree! I know of many stuck at MX12 for donkey years & growing cobwebs. But to give him the benefit of a doubt, he could just be at the right place at the right time....or the general population is better of doing harakiri.
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