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Old 30-07-2012, 02:49 PM
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Question:

-Are you fresh grad or with exp previously?
-Wat class of honours?
-With NS or no-NS?
-local degree or private degree?

how much did the 1st ministry offer you?
-Are you fresh grad or with exp previously? Fresh Grad.
-Wat class of honours? My class of honours is the same regardless of which ministry I go to..
-With NS or no-NS? With NS.
-local degree or private degree? Local.

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Old 31-07-2012, 12:31 AM
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Default Would you leave a ministry for stat board?

Currently working in a Ministry for a little over a year only, and am interested to apply for a stat board job. So would like to find out

-What's the benefits/package differences (in terms of annual incre, etc) between ministries and stat boards?

-would you jump from a ministry to stat board? why?

Appreciate your inputs! TIA

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Old 31-07-2012, 11:31 AM
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i am in civil service.

i was clearing 7 days of AL last week. (I still have 5 weeks remaining). I got the opportunity to have meals with many of my friends, ex-colleagues and ex-classmates.

one is a doctor who just past all her speciailist exams, another is in ship financing at a foreign bank, corresponded with a financial controller based in somewher in Asia, a SIA and a Silkair pilot, a secondary teacher, a conveyancing lawyer, an a few others. i am in civil service.

all of my friends have very good income, most well above mine. i think all of them owns a car, some continential. i don't.

except for the pilots, most of them work almost twice the working hours compared to me. the doctor, banker, financial controller, lawyer and secondary school teacher are all single. we are all in our early to mid-thirties, all Chinese, well educated. Many of us hold further and/or foreign degrees as well as coveted professional titles.

why am i writing this thread? a few days ago, the govt and media highlighted the dire birth rate in Singapore. a dedicated website is launched just on population issues (not sure what purpose will this website serve), and there is talk to explore longer maternality leave and other parenthood benefits. MCYS made incremental steps by shortening the reimbursement period to companies for maternity make-up salary.

but frankly, how many of us will really lower our social and economic expectations (by a lot but then still to a rather ok level) to start a family or simply to enjoy other aspects of life such as exercise or community events. many of these friends dress in fine clothes but are physically unfit and have never entered a community centre or took part in a community event in their recent memory. maybe because they are working more than 80hours a week.

both me and my wife just crossed our $5k threshold monthly income. combined we earn more than $10k per month. annually its around $150k. truthfully speaking we don't feel this is adequate to meet our expectations. our need HDB flat and renovations ($70k cash including applicances and furniture) almost wiped out all our cash. that's we are hesisitating to spurlge $70k on COE alone for a new car. i buy groupon vouchers for discounted car rental to refresh my driving skills once a while.

but frankly i am lucky. as i don't have to work weekends and OTs are uncommon. in fact i just finished the entire 90 espisodes of DVD korean drama Ju Meng during my leave. (the DVD's cost me $30 + maybe $50 aircon at home but saves me lots of money compared to a holiday). civil service still has its perks.

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i am in civil service.

i was clearing 7 days of AL last week. (I still have 5 weeks remaining). I got the opportunity to have meals with many of my friends, ex-colleagues and ex-classmates.

one is a doctor who just past all her speciailist exams, another is in ship financing at a foreign bank, corresponded with a financial controller based in somewher in Asia, a SIA and a Silkair pilot, a secondary teacher, a conveyancing lawyer, an a few others. i am in civil service.

all of my friends have very good income, most well above mine. i think all of them owns a car, some continential. i don't.

except for the pilots, most of them work almost twice the working hours compared to me. the doctor, banker, financial controller, lawyer and secondary school teacher are all single. we are all in our early to mid-thirties, all Chinese, well educated. Many of us hold further and/or foreign degrees as well as coveted professional titles.

why am i writing this thread? a few days ago, the govt and media highlighted the dire birth rate in Singapore. a dedicated website is launched just on population issues (not sure what purpose will this website serve), and there is talk to explore longer maternality leave and other parenthood benefits. MCYS made incremental steps by shortening the reimbursement period to companies for maternity make-up salary.

but frankly, how many of us will really lower our social and economic expectations (by a lot but then still to a rather ok level) to start a family or simply to enjoy other aspects of life such as exercise or community events. many of these friends dress in fine clothes but are physically unfit and have never entered a community centre or took part in a community event in their recent memory. maybe because they are working more than 80hours a week.

both me and my wife just crossed our $5k threshold monthly income. combined we earn more than $10k per month. annually its around $150k. truthfully speaking we don't feel this is adequate to meet our expectations. our need HDB flat and renovations ($70k cash including applicances and furniture) almost wiped out all our cash. that's we are hesisitating to spurlge $70k on COE alone for a new car. i buy groupon vouchers for discounted car rental to refresh my driving skills once a while.

but frankly i am lucky. as i don't have to work weekends and OTs are uncommon. in fact i just finished the entire 90 espisodes of DVD korean drama Ju Meng during my leave. (the DVD's cost me $30 + maybe $50 aircon at home but saves me lots of money compared to a holiday). civil service still has its perks.
I agree with you, but it is very hard to get into civil service!!
I got 4 years private sector exp, 2nd lower NTU with NS
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I agree with you, but it is very hard to get into civil service!!
I got 4 years private sector exp, 2nd lower NTU with NS
Is it very hard to get into Civil service? How about Public Service?
What do they look for?
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Hello everyone.

Currently I'm working as MSO 6 in one of the stat board here. Worked for 1.4 yrs with salary at 2.4k with diploma in electronics.*Next year will be promoted to mso 5.

Im currently taking part time studies with uniSIM right now in engineering. Would you ppl think it is best for me to work in an engineering field for experiences or just stay put with my current job? Really need some opinion frm the seniors here.
U must the lucky ones who got the 15% pay increase this year.. for me i have been working in mro company for near 2 years.. pay never even hit 2k.. than this mth got a job offer at ministry at least pay is much better.. wanna ask u.. after work 2 years auto jump to mso 5 is it?
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Really depends... I work for the uniformed group, so including my ns, it will be a total of 3.4 yrs of experience... Another factor is your boss. If he likes your working attitude, then he'll push your name during ranking but it'll be tough as you're competing with the other mso throughout the ministry...

Paywise for starters is good but the job scope is just so crap...
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Thanks for the input.. i hope that there are not many mso in the ministry im abt to work in.. If after maybe 2 years there and if i see there are no potential for progression i might just move on to other job with better salary.. My friend.also mso but under police one he said his job very boring.. haha.. mine is mso in prison hope its not that bored..
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Thanks for the input.. i hope that there are not many mso in the ministry im abt to work in.. If after maybe 2 years there and if i see there are no potential for progression i might just move on to other job with better salary.. My friend.also mso but under police one he said his job very boring.. haha.. mine is mso in prison hope its not that bored..
Most of the job is just a day to day administrative for mso. No fun in. Wa thinking of converting to TSO. Higher pay and more exposure.
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i wonder how the investment banking guys are doing? Seems like the industry s getting hit quite badly these days
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