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Old 12-06-2012, 10:57 PM
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Hoping for some honest advice.

Am thinking of switching to civil/public service from current banking operations back office.
Am 33 this year, ntu engineering degree (pass), 5 years banking operations experience
Currently getting 4.2k only

What kind of positions (non-engineering, non-uniform) can I appy for in the civil service/public sector?

Do I stand a chance with pass ntu engineering degree knowing the civil/public places great emphasis with paper qualifications? (If not, i don't want to waste time trying)
May I know what's your motive of moving to government jobs? If for higher pay, you can consider yourself lucky if they match your last drawn. No government agencies would want to be limelights of paying above market rates (remember the town council sagas some yrs back?)

If it's for higher calling and passions like teaching/social service etc, then it's different story - for you'll be rewarded duly in many other aspects.

Based on other banking and finance forum threads, it seems to me that any bankers can easily out-earn any government workers in similar age by 2-3x at least. Maybe can consider movement within same sector?



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Be prepared to receive a possible 10-15% discount to your existing salary.. Cos you are already considered overpaid for your profile in the civil service... You will no go very far also since you do not have honors... I would stay put in the back office if i were you... No prospects either ways even if you took the pay cut.....
No prospect if no hons? There are ppl in this forum here from local U, without hons earning in the MX11 4.4 - 4.5 region after 5 years leh. He would've gotten to that level if he started with civil service from the start since graduation. If you mean no prospects in terms of going to MX9, MX8 and beyond then of course dont need to say la.

Funny thing about CS is that except for places like MAS, they usually don't count your previous work experience and just lump people with 3-4years experience into MX12, which is what fresh grad would get after 1 year.

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Hi all

I am a fresh grad from NTU material engineering with 1st class honors currently on a contract with the local red telco in a managerial role.

I am keen in the teaching profession and would like to apply to be moe teacher. (have given this serious thought)

So, could senior forumers kindly comment on the payscale and pay increment for being a moe teacher?

What is the career progression like being a moe teacher?

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No prospect if no hons? There are ppl in this forum here from local U, without hons earning in the MX11 4.4 - 4.5 region after 5 years leh. He would've gotten to that level if he started with civil service from the start since graduation. If you mean no prospects in terms of going to MX9, MX8 and beyond then of course dont need to say la.

Funny thing about CS is that except for places like MAS, they usually don't count your previous work experience and just lump people with 3-4years experience into MX12, which is what fresh grad would get after 1 year.
QFT,
apply for MOE HQ b4,
previous got 3year plus exp, 2nd lower local U, got offer 3.7k, MX12
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QFT,
apply for MOE HQ b4,
previous got 3year plus exp, 2nd lower local U, got offer 3.7k, MX12
MOE HQ offering 3.2k, MX 13 for local U fresh grad (2nd uppers) now. Maybe 3k for 2nd lower.
So 700 extra for the 3 years plus of exp?
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MOE HQ offering 3.2k, MX 13 for local U fresh grad (2nd uppers) now. Maybe 3k for 2nd lower.
So 700 extra for the 3 years plus of exp?
most of the time, your experience counts for very little unless it's really related.
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MOE HQ offering 3.2k, MX 13 for local U fresh grad (2nd uppers) now. Maybe 3k for 2nd lower.
So 700 extra for the 3 years plus of exp?
my 3.7k is already included the with NS component as I serve 2.5 years of NS

3.2k for 2nd upper is without NS.....with NS will be about 3.5k for male 2nd upper

3.2k for 2nd upper without NS>>this offer this after Feb2012 this year right?..
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May I know what's your motive of moving to government jobs? If for higher pay, you can consider yourself lucky if they match your last drawn. No government agencies would want to be limelights of paying above market rates (remember the town council sagas some yrs back?)

If it's for higher calling and passions like teaching/social service etc, then it's different story - for you'll be rewarded duly in many other aspects.

Based on other banking and finance forum threads, it seems to me that any bankers can easily out-earn any government workers in similar age by 2-3x at least. Maybe can consider movement within same sector?
a) work-life balance.
b) overall remuneration package: Less than 1 month bonus each of the past 4 years. Demoralised and disillusinoned. With the current market sentiment still depressing, the situation isn't going to change soon and operations back office is always the last in line to pick up scraps.
c) operations can be easily replaced by cheaper FTs or moved out to cheaper countries one day.

I am not aiming to be a high-flier. Will be satisifed with a stable job, sufficient remuneration just to survive in sg.

Will I be considered for a civil/public sector administration or finance position with a engineering pass degree?
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hi guys, anyone knows will interviews be conducted even b4 the application deadline ends for govt jobs on career portal? and roughly how long will they call u up for interview after u applied/application deadline?
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hi guys, anyone knows will interviews be conducted even b4 the application deadline ends for govt jobs on career portal? and roughly how long will they call u up for interview after u applied/application deadline?

highly likely a 1-3 mth wait is possible before they get back to you. depends on where you apply. i applied for MOE and within a month I got the job- in between of 2-3 weeks waiting time for interview, submitting relevant documents, medical checkup, then signing of contract. so it's pretty fast. another friend applied for MCYS, 1 month later they called her for an interview. different ministry/statboard works differently. While i got my job within a mth, she got a call for interview after 1 mth of applying from the portal.


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