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Old 13-03-2023, 05:30 PM
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Hi, my HR mentioned that the starting salary will be higher if I graduate w second upper or FCH. Does anyone know how much higher?

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Related to previous response, anyone know if SMU degree classification is viewed the same as NUS/NTU system since the gpa system is kinda different. It is also considerably harder to get 2nd upper and above.

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Hi I’m a 28 yr old M FCH in a stat board for near 3 yrs alr. My basic is currently 4.9k. How is this progress? Expecting future progress to be slow as this pay is there due to a series of adjustments. Thanks

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Related to previous response, anyone know if SMU degree classification is viewed the same as NUS/NTU system since the gpa system is kinda different. It is also considerably harder to get 2nd upper and above.
SMU Cum Laude = NUS/NTU 2nd Upper
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Old 14-03-2023, 06:26 AM
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SMU Cum Laude = NUS/NTU 2nd Upper
Back in 2013 I applied for a civil service job and they said my cum laude is not a 2nd upper.
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Back in 2013 I applied for a civil service job and they said my cum laude is not a 2nd upper.
it is treated as
magna first
summa 2nd upper
cum laude 2nd lower
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it is treated as
magna first
summa 2nd upper
cum laude 2nd lower

Don’t know don’t anyhow say

Summa is higher than magna

It depends on agency. Was offered by Ministry “Good Honours” pay for Cum Laude (verified same as 2.1 from NUS). At that time a SB offered me 2nd lower salary. Of course I took the Ministry’s

That was around the first few batches of SMU (sigh, revealing my age…)

I would think more agencies now consider Cum Laude to be similar to 2nd upper

Latin honours system so many ranks: Summa, Magna, vanilla Cum Laude, High Merit, Merit, Pass. VS 1st, 2nd upper, 2nd lower, 3rd, pass and also no honours (grad at year 3)
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Hi,

I have been in a stat board for 5 years and currently holding a MX11A equivalent position and pay.

Thinking of moving to a Ministry but wondering which of the two options: (1) via movement policy (retain same substantive grade, pay and leave benefits) or (2) quitting and joining as a new hire (possibility of being able to negotiate for slightly higher pay, maybe a redesignation from AD to DD but potentially lose leave benefits though does not really apply since I am on 18 days leave instead of 28 days leave scheme) would be a better options assuming the HR of the Ministry agrees to either option.

(3) Secondment and (4) Structured job rotations are currently not being considered by me as I do not wish to return to my existing agency plus I am a generalist and not a specialist under the typical job rotation domains (e.g. HR, procurement, PE etc).

Would appreciate any advice / thoughts on the matter please. Thanks in advance!
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Once I start typing I will hear tsk tsk tsk tsk. Siao one. How to work if you cannot type.
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Hi,

I have been in a stat board for 5 years and currently holding a MX11A equivalent position and pay.

Thinking of moving to a Ministry but wondering which of the two options: (1) via movement policy (retain same substantive grade, pay and leave benefits) or (2) quitting and joining as a new hire (possibility of being able to negotiate for slightly higher pay, maybe a redesignation from AD to DD but potentially lose leave benefits though does not really apply since I am on 18 days leave instead of 28 days leave scheme) would be a better options assuming the HR of the Ministry agrees to either option.

(3) Secondment and (4) Structured job rotations are currently not being considered by me as I do not wish to return to my existing agency plus I am a generalist and not a specialist under the typical job rotation domains (e.g. HR, procurement, PE etc).

Would appreciate any advice / thoughts on the matter please. Thanks in advance!

If a redesignation to DD is taking up a MX10 position, then no need to thinks just go for it. After 10 years of service you get 3 more days of AL. Not very useful as I typically cannot finish clearing my leave one. Usually will take many half days to rest and clear.

So retaining years of service not very useful to me

If you can join at a MX10 role, even if you start on as an “Acting” and on MX11A, as long as you don’t screw up you will become MX10 quite fast

Then you can choose to cruise… or you can see if you wanna try and be a superscaler in 10 years’ time

Simply better than staying out at MX11A or movement policy to another MX11A estab post

But dunno how the non poaching rule work. You may have to quit without offer first if you want to get a MX10 estab role
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