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Old 03-04-2022, 09:31 AM
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Joined LTA in 2018 July
NUS mech engineering 2nd upper with NS

2018 July - LTE 6 starting pay 4.5k
2019 April - No grade since just joined
2020 April - C+ and promotion to LTE 7, 4.9k
2021 April - C+, 5.1k
2022 April - C+, 5.4k

Really understand why people say it's slow progression already.
not happy, quit and join private sector lor, period

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Old 03-04-2022, 10:42 AM
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C+ gets 2 month of PB at my level.
I think this is above average, average should be C with 1.5 month.

Other than that you get the typical mid and end year + AWS that you see announced on the news.

For engineering roles between certain levels you also get MAC but this amount is totally random.
so 4 to 5 mths bonus per yr on average? i think still decent for engineering roles

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Old 03-04-2022, 10:46 AM
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so 4 to 5 mths bonus per yr on average? i think still decent for engineering roles
its the increments that are very little.



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so 4 to 5 mths bonus per yr on average? i think still decent for engineering roles
for administrative roles? 1 month aws, 2 months pb, 1 month mid+end year reasonable?
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for administrative roles? 1 month aws, 2 months pb, 1 month mid+end year reasonable?
sounds ok to assume that
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Joined LTA in 2018 July
NUS mech engineering 2nd upper with NS

2018 July - LTE 6 starting pay 4.5k
2019 April - No grade since just joined
2020 April - C+ and promotion to LTE 7, 4.9k
2021 April - C+, 5.1k
2022 April - C+, 5.4k

Really understand why people say it's slow progression already.
It's not bad already. For me,

NEA (Engineer)
Year 0 - 4.5k [NX13]
Year 1 - 4.6k (No grade, slight adjustment)
Year 2 - C, 5k (Emplaced to permanent) [NX12]
Year 3 - B, 5.3k
Year 4 - B, 5.8k (In-grade promotion) [NX12A]

Background - NS, straight As from top JC, FCH and masters in engineering from top overseas university, non-scholar.

NEA has a separate ranking session for scholars where the majority of high CEPs and performance grades are reserved for them, leaving the farmers to fight over scraps - this is what they don't tell you, and is blatantly contrary to what PSD claims publicly. It is a direct consequence of the scholar retention KPI, which is a major KPI for HR - HR will get into trouble if too many underperforming scholars quit because they are ranked poorly.

During my time, presented to and hosted forums with SM Teo, HCS Leo Yip and two other PSes multiple times while being secretariat of 3 concurrent CEO-level inter-ministry/bilateral forums (most people only do one secretariat duty at a time). Left because my CEP never changed from the default in 4 years (i.e. same CEP as someone who coasted along doing the bare minimum). The average scholar got similar performance grades and higher CEP with far less work, while certain scholars got higher performance grades and Group Director (NX8) CEP within 2 years, also with less work.

Good exposure and starting pay, bad career prospects. Bad senior management who lied to me to wait it out in the hope that things would get better (when they knew very well that it wouldn't); good middle managers who told me my CEP and encouraged me to leave (even helped me with job referrals) since there was no future for non-scholars and I would only end up working for them while they got the credit.
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Old 04-04-2022, 04:52 PM
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Joined LTA in 2018 July
NUS mech engineering 2nd upper with NS

2018 July - LTE 6 starting pay 4.5k
2019 April - No grade since just joined
2020 April - C+ and promotion to LTE 7, 4.9k
2021 April - C+, 5.1k
2022 April - C+, 5.4k

Really understand why people say it's slow progression already.
Then what do you expect? $1k increments yearly?
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anyone knows Manager, EDB which MX level?
Titles not directly correlated with pay grade/band esp for certain titles.

That being said, Manager is roughly 5.5-9k+ maybe more if they adjusted
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Titles not directly correlated with pay grade/band esp for certain titles.

That being said, Manager is roughly 5.5-9k+ maybe more if they adjusted
Some manager roles only 4K+ especially for certain ministries that use assistant managers and managers very loosely. A lot of fresh grads start out with assistant manager and get fresh grad salary yet there are also ppl with many years of experience at assistant manager position getting 5k plus. Job title means nothing. Your salary grade is more important.
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Some manager roles only 4K+ especially for certain ministries that use assistant managers and managers very loosely. A lot of fresh grads start out with assistant manager and get fresh grad salary yet there are also ppl with many years of experience at assistant manager position getting 5k plus. Job title means nothing. Your salary grade is more important.
The title is tied to the grade. However, not all ministries and SBs use the same grade and title respectively. Higher grades will have a salary range crossing over to the next grade.

Anyone from HR? Can give more insights.
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