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15-11-2011, 07:38 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 309
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
kinda regret joining govt so early on in my career..
increments r so darn slow. 5% a year????? pffffttttttt
arghh i feel damn poor
PS: quite worried for PB and SVP this year...hope it's not as bad as 2008/2009 levels
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government increment low....dun bluff la
<<< someone posted working in government ministry
28 years old male (with NS)
2nd upper local grad (graduate in July 2007)
civil servant (4 years since graduation)
non-scholar (MXS scheme)
72k per annum (including performance and mid/end-year bonuses)
2007- $3280 MX13
2008 - $3545 MX12(8% for promotion & annual increment)
2009 - $3836 MX12(8.2% for annual increment)
2010 - $4200+ MX11(9.5% for promotion & annual increment)
2011 - $4800+ MX11(14.2% for annual increment)
2012 Apr - $5000+ (est)
MX13 to MX12 (promotion/confirmation after one year contract which is standard for those who enter civil service at entry grade of MX13)
Got promoted to MX11 on Apr/May 2010.>>>
https://forums.salary.sg/income-jobs/...html#post17271
https://forums.salary.sg/income-jobs/...html#post17353
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27-11-2011, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hi there. I am surprised they gave u a scholarship to do masters (albeit locally) after just one year. Study leave for one year for you to study (with monthly salary etc)?
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life in private sector is no better. i am a lawyer who is moving into public sector, offered on mx12 scheme. i have 2 years+ post qualification experience.
people might think, why is a lawyer going into the public sector? don't you earn a lot in a law firm? the answer is - yes and no. you earn a lot if you are in the big firms, but i have been practicing in a middle size firm and some places find all ways and means to underpay you. even if you do well in your performance, you will not be given a bonus because of reasons like "the firm is preparing for the economy" and "your collections (i.e. when you send out bills for legal work and when people pay, that's collections) are not enough". a lot of lawyers like myself are leaving for other places, more increasingly go into the public sector because it is "fair" and often you are not shortchanged.
having considered options, i think public sector is a better bet especially with the recession coming on and the economy in the doldrums.
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27-11-2011, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
life in private sector is no better. i am a lawyer who is moving into public sector, offered on mx12 scheme. i have 2 years+ post qualification experience.
people might think, why is a lawyer going into the public sector? don't you earn a lot in a law firm? the answer is - yes and no. you earn a lot if you are in the big firms, but i have been practicing in a middle size firm and some places find all ways and means to underpay you. even if you do well in your performance, you will not be given a bonus because of reasons like "the firm is preparing for the economy" and "your collections (i.e. when you send out bills for legal work and when people pay, that's collections) are not enough". a lot of lawyers like myself are leaving for other places, more increasingly go into the public sector because it is "fair" and often you are not shortchanged.
having considered options, i think public sector is a better bet especially with the recession coming on and the economy in the doldrums.
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sorry to say: that means you're not good enough a lawyer.
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27-11-2011, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
contrary to the poster, i know a lot of good lawyers who were not paid well.
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it depends on your definition. a "good" lawyer must not only know how to fight and win cases, but he must also know how to market himself and make big bucks.
by my definition, lawyers who aren't paid well aren't good enough.
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28-11-2011, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
it depends on your definition. a "good" lawyer must not only know how to fight and win cases, but he must also know how to market himself and make big bucks.
by my definition, lawyers who aren't paid well aren't good enough.
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no wonder you are not a lawyer.
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30-11-2011, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
no wonder you are not a lawyer.
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i'm not a POOR lawyer.
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30-11-2011, 10:29 AM
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But you are certainly a person of poor character
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30-11-2011, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
But you are certainly a person of poor character
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Just like most lawyers and politicians.
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30-11-2011, 11:57 PM
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Well, then you're very welcome to join the government service if you really think everybody can draw that kind of salary.... ha, ha.. you'll sure regret big time... Don't say i never warn you.. ha, ha...
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Originally Posted by Bean
government increment low....dun bluff la
<<< someone posted working in government ministry
28 years old male (with NS)
2nd upper local grad (graduate in July 2007)
civil servant (4 years since graduation)
non-scholar (MXS scheme)
72k per annum (including performance and mid/end-year bonuses)
2007- $3280 MX13
2008 - $3545 MX12(8% for promotion & annual increment)
2009 - $3836 MX12(8.2% for annual increment)
2010 - $4200+ MX11(9.5% for promotion & annual increment)
2011 - $4800+ MX11(14.2% for annual increment)
2012 Apr - $5000+ (est)
MX13 to MX12 (promotion/confirmation after one year contract which is standard for those who enter civil service at entry grade of MX13)
Got promoted to MX11 on Apr/May 2010.>>>
https://forums.salary.sg/income-jobs/...html#post17271
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