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My former teacher HOD SxK. HOD is talent that can earn $100,000 but look for like parasite to me. When I am teaching in schools, my colleauge told me he everytime go Thailand find chicken. My colleauge Chinese HOD CTx, everytime told me he go Taiwan find Chicken. Want to reccomend a Taiwanese teacher to me. But then he told me once when she go back Taiwan, that she go back to give her bf there a big Fxxx. A secondary school in the east, C sec, everyone know then the malay principal kept students as mistress in Australia. My Principal Singh, like to boost he has a lot of woman when he is young....etc i got many many stories.... Nevertheless, haha, I think many civil service boss are talent. haha.... since this forum is about engineering, so I stop here for civil service. I am a engineer and work 3 worst part of my life in civil service. Private sector is much better as you don get to see so many "talent". More stories... more stories but better keep to myself. |
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Can't be helped that you disliked your time in the service. I can't imagine you doing any better outside actually, with attitude like yours. |
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I really doubt your IQ. Back to your point, regarding professional knowledge. This is some of my experience of talent I found in MOE. I was once furious that MOE's edumail was 100++M, without client and support no POP, pure HTTP based, get log out in couple of minutes. And worse, MOE paid for these lousy service and we get free Gmail from google in couple of Gig. I wrote to IDA, I think it reach someone like Tee Miang and his lackey L. These IDA folks, high ranking, drawing a lot of $$$ cannot even understand the technical terms I wrote. (from the reply they wrote) Throw me back a email accusing me CC many people using false charges. I wrote in another technical mail, rebuking all the points, I guess they don understand the technical terms. IDA called me and want to meet me. I told the person I will stop this because as a civil servant, I fully understand that a underling will be held scapegoat. Can some imagine MOE's edumail was 100++M (if i don remember wrongly), without client and support no POP, pure HTTP based, get log out in couple of minutes. That is 2008 and they actually pay lots of $$$ for this. You call these IT people talent? The next thing is I attend IDA conference on WIFI-ing the school, where they bring in a lot of vendor. A fat chap from Qala says that we a school need 20-30 AP (cant really remember the number but I think its exhorbitant). I throw the question to the IDA people. I say my experience in deploying 802.11 BG network is 4 AP within 30m indoor. I cannot figure out the rational of 20-30 AP in a school, and according to my experience there will be inter-channel interference. (There is no 802.11N then). As a engineer, I am not too sure whether 20-30 AP can really be done in close proximity. Maybe can, so I want to hear the rationale of IDA and Qala and want them to convince me. The IDA person (IT expert) cannot answer and try to bluff me and told me something that you are teacher, don try to act smart. I told me I used to deploy network bla bla... The whole theatre suddenly become deaf silence. You know what happened after that? I am out of the game of the commitee of implementing WIFI in school. I have many many stories... I am going to be adamant that this time I would not talk about civil service again in this post. |
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The IDA example - are you seriously expecting senior management to understand technical jargon? Come on. While I respect senior management that worked their way from the ground up, these days most are parachuted in. Even in the private sector, most CEOs would not know the nitty gritty details. They leave it to the technical pp. Rather, they are some MBA folks who are supposedly trained in business strategy. In any case, if you were serious about solving the issue you should have spoken to the IDA staff. I don't buy the scapegoat excuse. I would be the first to agree that the public service tends to use seemingly old and dated technology that does not seem to be value for money. What to do? public service organisations tend to be very large and changing technology is a slow and tedious process. By the time they decide to adopt a technology after all the 'assessment', technology has already evolved to something else. Is this a critical flaw that totally prevents a good teacher from performing his/her role? My wife is a dedicated teacher. I often lament that the school doesn't provide her with enough resources. She simply works around the problems, and doesn't waste time on such things. Her email is working fine, btw. MOE example - perhaps that IDA chap was really lousy. You seem to suggest that there was some conspiracy going on which led to your being kicked out. Did they tell you why you were out of the committee? Surely they would have given a reason? Mind sharing here? You seem to be suggesting that the folks at IDA are pretty useless, don't even know how many access points are needed. Considering that there are many local engineers in IDA, and that many of them probably came from the same school as you, I find it hard to fathom that there isn't a single person in IDA who could have 'discovered' such a significant over-provision. Hard to tell, we don't have the tender specs, and the relevant papers, etc. Everything here, including your views, are all guess work. |
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For example, Koh Seah Wee was sentenced to 22 years in jail and Lim Chai Meng to 15 years for their roles in cheating Singapore government agencies of S$12.5 million ($10 million) in the city’s biggest public-sector fraud since 1995. Koh and IDA attached to SLA has a reporting officer of, also another IDA attached to SLA (forget his name). Apparently he is not able understand what Koh is doing. A very junior engineer would have smell a rat. Ya correct bosses don know nitty gritty. Anyway, MRT breaks down again and again. Our government so many talent. All these are just isolated cases Singaporeans use to denigrate government. |
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This discussion stemmed from a very simple point which I made - that there are good officers in the public service who are able to earn within 5 years, above 5k pm. It is a simple fact. And I know because I've seen many of such cases. This point does not contradict and is in itself not mutually exclusive to the fact that corruption and poor bosses exist in the civil service. Yet you kept using the latter to rebut the former. Clearly you can't see logic. You have a lot of bitterness in you. I think it is obvious to everyone who reads this thread. You can't accept the fact that there are many others in this world who are much more successful than you. Your first reaction is to lash out at them instead of trying to learn from them. Yes, some of them may start off appearing to be arrogant. You can't seem to let that pass and listen to the useful points. With your kind attitude - thinking that you're always right and everyone else is always wrong - I wonder how you can ever work properly with others who do not share your views. And I predict quite confidently here that that the outcome for you is going to be the same, be it in the public service or outside. |
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in fact I think it's incredibly magnanimous of you to continue this discourse with somebody who is clearly not interested in listening to what you have to say. |
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