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salseek 03-03-2010 04:42 PM

how much can I ask for this position,thanks
 
may i ask 4000 sig$ for the following position
//requriement:
Software Engineer in IT(home-security,finger,face,track or passport scanning)
middle level-2year
c++,mfc
part java,c#,linux

//my qualification
34years old
BS and MS of computer science graduated from China
3 years expeience in shchool lab for algorithm,with two project and three paper
4years experience in two company, R&D
2years experience(java,c#) in singapore

in all i have more than 6 years experience in their relative field.

now i am with PR
current salary:
basic 2800/month,
AWS 2 months salary

Unregistered 03-03-2010 11:23 PM

sounds ok to me. thanks for contributing to the sg economy and making us richer.

Unregistered 04-03-2010 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salseek (Post 5326)
may i ask 4000 sig$ for the following position
//requriement:
Software Engineer in IT(home-security,finger,face,track or passport scanning)
middle level-2year
c++,mfc
part java,c#,linux

//my qualification
34years old
BS and MS of computer science graduated from China
3 years expeience in shchool lab for algorithm,with two project and three paper
4years experience in two company, R&D
2years experience(java,c#) in singapore

in all i have more than 6 years experience in their relative field.

now i am with PR
current salary:
basic 2800/month,
AWS 2 months salary



Hi Salseek ... You are definitely underpaid and should demand 4K per month w/o any hesitation ...

Unregistered 04-03-2010 08:41 AM

yeah, you deserve to ask for $4k. But a programmer from India with your qualifications will only ask for $2k. So how?

Unregistered 04-03-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 5333)
yeah, you deserve to ask for $4k. But a programmer from India with your qualifications will only ask for $2k. So how?

10k is more appropriate. other foreign talents, though mostly whites, earn that amount by doing high level designs. they call themselves architects. no programming needed.

IT Manager 04-03-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 5334)
10k is more appropriate. other foreign talents, though mostly whites, earn that amount by doing high level designs. they call themselves architects. no programming needed.

He is asking about programming job not s/w architects. The job scopes are totally different. Race has got nothing to do with the pay packages, its all about their profile.

salseek, it all depends on the employers' budget and their requirements. Since they posted middle-level 2 year, I doubt they are willing to pay much. But of course you can still try your luck.

Unregistered 04-03-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT Manager (Post 5336)
He is asking about programming job not s/w architects. The job scopes are totally different. Race has got nothing to do with the pay packages, its all about their profile.

salseek, it all depends on the employers' budget and their requirements. Since they posted middle-level 2 year, I doubt they are willing to pay much. But of course you can still try your luck.

Why be a programmer when you can be an architect? Being a programmer is being cheaper, but being an architect is being better.

I'm giving advice to salseeker to _not_ remain as a programmer, but work at a higher level. This is the way to earn more.

I have to add this: some architects just talk and consult their way to the top, but they actually do not have much substance. Whether you are talented or not, learn from them.

A distant analogy: why be a farmer when you can get rich trading the produce?

IT Manager 04-03-2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 5337)
Why be a programmer when you can be an architect? Being a programmer is being cheaper, but being an architect is being better.

I'm giving advice to salseeker to _not_ remain as a programmer, but work at a higher level. This is the way to earn more.

I have to add this: some architects just talk and consult their way to the top, but they actually do not have much substance. Whether you are talented or not, learn from them.

A distant analogy: why be a farmer when you can get rich trading the produce?

Like I said the two are totally different job scopes. A programmer may not have the necessary skills to be a s/w architects, and vice-versa. Your experience with the untalented s/w architects do not justify that programmers can be s/w architects, there are many other factors to consider how they manage to be there.

And what advise you gave salseeker in your previous post? Please read what you wrote again.

Stating a sound analogy does not make an argument sound. But its true that one can still learn a thing or two from anybody including the untalented ones.

Windy 30-03-2010 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salseek (Post 5326)
may i ask 4000 sig$ for the following position
//requriement:
Software Engineer in IT(home-security,finger,face,track or passport scanning)
middle level-2year
c++,mfc
part java,c#,linux

//my qualification
34years old
BS and MS of computer science graduated from China
3 years expeience in shchool lab for algorithm,with two project and three paper
4years experience in two company, R&D
2years experience(java,c#) in singapore

in all i have more than 6 years experience in their relative field.

now i am with PR
current salary:
basic 2800/month,
AWS 2 months salary

4K is 42% increment over 2.8K. Depending on your hiring manger, that may not be acceptable. Nevertheless, luck plays a great part in one's career ;).

Unregistered 23-05-2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Windy (Post 5576)
4K is 42% increment over 2.8K. Depending on your hiring manger, that may not be acceptable. Nevertheless, luck plays a great part in one's career ;).

DO NOT EVER TELL YOUR EMPLOYER YOUR SALARY. First to declare in salary negotiation loses.


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