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Old 26-09-2015, 01:33 PM
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Your comments show you don't know anything about trading. Best to keep your comments to yourself.

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You mean to say that the trader guy was lying about his $100k pa trading profits?

Don't get me wrong, I want people to trade especially in Singapore stocks because sgx will get a cut. And I have 25 lots of sgx shares.

I have yet to come across anyone who have consistently beaten the market through trading. People will boast about the big profits but kept very quiet when they are stuck or when they sold with big loss.

On the other hand, I know people who managed to bag multi-baggers, myself included, through buying good stocks and holding for the long term.

And I know if you are only able to make $100k profit, you are a small player who can only hope to catch the wave created by the big boys. Missed the wave or be on the wrong of the wave, and your $100k pa profits will be become losses.

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Old 26-09-2015, 03:17 PM
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That is the point isn't it? I have no clue that's why I was asking about how reliable and dependable it was that people could live off the profits from just trading.

And all you reply was a one liner. Doesn't say very much for traders.

Can any real trader step forward and shed some light on how they are feeding their families by trading or should I say outwitting Mr Market? Ex colleagues of mine have tried their hands on full time trading after losing their jobs but without success. They said they wouldn't have tried it out if their wives were not holding full time jobs.

On the other hand, I am well aware of retirees living comfortably off dividends from stocks whether market is up or down.

Well, any real traders out there who can share?

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Old 27-09-2015, 09:20 AM
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Don't confuse professional fund managers with your neighbour/friend/ex-colleague who lost his job and is trading with his own money.

Professional fund managers make his money from investors. For those trades where he make millions, he get extra bonuses. When he loses your money he blamed on it on Mr Market and he still charge you for his commission.

Get it?

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Good traders can make money in any kind of market conditions. But they have to be disciplined and dedicated. They are usually serious full time traders. There are many stories of millionaire traders all over the world.

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Old 27-09-2015, 01:06 PM
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I would like to share how my spouse and I managed to own a condo even though we don't earn much. We are both in our 40s and our total income is now only $170,000 per year. Our income can be considered as average household income at best.

So how do we manage to own a condo? We were lucky as we decided to upgrade to our condo after selling our HDB flat in 2006. We used the sales proceeds from the sale of our flat as downpayment for the condo and we just took a small loan. Today, we managed to clear our mortgage loan and the value of the condo has gone up since 2006 (value has dropped since 2013 though). Anyway what is most important is that we are now among the top 20% in Singapore living in a private property. We plan to retire in our condo and enjoy our condo facilities.

Our retirement plan is to invest in the CPF Life so that we will get income every month from our CPF Life. We can expect to get $3600 per month as a couple at 65. We will also save and get dividends of $2000 per month. Our children will give us $1000 per month. So, in total our passive income will be $6600 per month or $79,200 per year.
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Our children will give us $1000 per month. So, in total our passive income will be $6600 per month or $79,200 per year.
How much money are you and your wife giving to your parents?
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Old 27-09-2015, 02:25 PM
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How much money are you and your wife giving to your parents?
We give $1400 per month in total to both my parents and her parents. This is in 2015.

In 20 years time, I think if our two kids give us $1000 in total (ie only $500 each), I think it is not too much ask. You agree?

How much are you giving to your parents now?
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How much are you giving to your parents now?
I don't give money to my parents on a monthly basis. They get a very high pension every month.
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I don't give money to my parents on a monthly basis. They get a very high pension every month.
No wonder you can save a lot
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Old 27-09-2015, 07:49 PM
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We have also benefitted from the property market. We sold our landed property with a very big profit and downgraded to a three-bedroom condo. This allows us to retire. We invested our cash after paying in full for the condo. We are now earning a nice passive income for us to retire comfortably.

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I would like to share how my spouse and I managed to own a condo even though we don't earn much. We are both in our 40s and our total income is now only $170,000 per year. Our income can be considered as average household income at best.

So how do we manage to own a condo? We were lucky as we decided to upgrade to our condo after selling our HDB flat in 2006. We used the sales proceeds from the sale of our flat as downpayment for the condo and we just took a small loan. Today, we managed to clear our mortgage loan and the value of the condo has gone up since 2006 (value has dropped since 2013 though). Anyway what is most important is that we are now among the top 20% in Singapore living in a private property. We plan to retire in our condo and enjoy our condo facilities.

Our retirement plan is to invest in the CPF Life so that we will get income every month from our CPF Life. We can expect to get $3600 per month as a couple at 65. We will also save and get dividends of $2000 per month. Our children will give us $1000 per month. So, in total our passive income will be $6600 per month or $79,200 per year.
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