you consider this as norm?
No outstanding car loan, then 1500-2000 car expenses for what?
20 meals in restaurant/cafe? Don't you think that is too much? Retired at age 55, I suppose this guy got no obligation. A healthy couple with no obligation, I don't see the need of a domestic helper. Apparently, the definition of comfortable here is healthy but do no housework, drive a car to have a high tea in a restaurant, then watch some tv and plan for some family trip. |
How about something more middle-class?
For 2 pax Restaurant/Cafe – $500 per month Groceries – $700 per month (meals for 2 + daily necessities) Telco, Utilities and Conservancy Fees – $200 per month (broad band, mobile, electricity, water, conservancy fees) Healthcare and Medical – $400 per month (supplements, visits to GP, medicine, Chinese herbs, etc). Transport - $200/month Misc – $1300 per month (include random stuff like giving cny angbaos over the whole year and travelling) Total/month: $3300 (2pax), $1650 (1pax) 30 years: $1.2m (2pax), $600k (1pax) This lifestyle already very comfortable, at least for my standard. Can definitely go even lower. I bet some financial advisor gave the mentioned scenario for you-know-what reasons. |
This is more reasonable
If a couple who are fortunate and work hard enough, they can achieve this at age 55.
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Why worry so much for retirement? If you are open minded and retire in JB, you don't need so much to retire. You just need your HDB flat and CPF Life.
Rent out your HDB flat for $2500 pm. Convert to RM and you will get RM7500 pm. If you have no other obligations and dependents, a retired couple in JB don't need much. 1. Rental for a brand new condo in JB, 3 bedroom unit, RM1000 pm (due to the massive glut of properties in JB, rental is going to be very cheap for a long, long time). 2. Food, groceries and utilities RM800 pm 3. Car expenses RM600 pm 4. Medical and other expenses RM600 pm 5. Total expenses RM3000 pm 6. Savings RM4500 pm CPF Life at 65 onwards S$3600 pm. Can save this amount for you to go around the world holidays. |
You don't need $3.5m to retire. There are many old folks who retire with just a fraction of that. They lead a simple retired life. Those who want a more luxurious retirement lifestyle will retire in Malaysia or Thailand.
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Spartan living in retirement
The previous example was for a comfortable lifestyle where the retirees have a car and a maid. I see that people are incredulous of the $3.5m needed to sustain a couple in that lifestyle for 30 years.
Now another example. This time for a very Spartan lifestyle. Again, this was worked out by someone. Projected Retirement Budget – Spartan Scenario – Travel by bus or MRT – DIY without a maid – Substitute 20 restaurant meals with hawker meals – Omit all holidays and explore Singapore Using the same assumptions (1.8% inflation, 30 years lifespan post retirement), the total amounts needed would then be very different: Annual expenses (first year): $1,400 x 12 = $16,800 Expenses over 30 years (incl 1.8% annual inflation): approx $700,000 For a retired couple, this works out to about $1.4 million or so, which is two and a half times lower than the earlier “comfortable scenario”. While this looks a lot more feasible for most Singaporeans to attain, it does entail some sacrifice in the life quality of one’s golden years. |
If you opt for the CPF Enhanced scheme, you will get $3600 pm for a retired couple. So, you don't need any additional cash.
If you have at least two good children who contribute $500 each, you will get $1000 pm. Your passive income will be $4600 pm. This is more than enough provided you: 1. Don't own a car 2. Don't employ a maid 3. Don't smoke 4. Don't drink 5. Don't gamble 6. Don't do stupid things such as get rich quick schemes 7. Don't gamble in speculative penny stocks 8. Don't womanize Lead a simple, peaceful retired life. Quote:
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both me & wife are 45, and we already have the amounts each in CPF to qualify for the enhanced scheme. so in theory our retirement funds from 65 onwards is taken care.
we have about $1mil in cash and stocks now which should suffice for us from 45 till 65. just do a simply job and dont spend unnecessarily we have a paid condo and car. two kids are in secondary school and doing well. really looking forward to a stress free retirement. Quote:
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When do you both intend to retire? Next year?
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[QUOTE=Unregistered;74169]When do you both intend to retire? Next year?[/QUOTE
looking at semi retirement from 55. |
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