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Old 26-03-2023, 11:01 AM
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The best chain is the ops chain for sure
lol, sore GP come in to bash ops again. ya la, u bestest street smartest doctor in the whole wide singapore.

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Old 26-03-2023, 11:03 AM
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Parkway shenton paid the best many years ago.
They benchmark your salary to locum rates, no bonus becuase all paid to you upfront
Per hourly rate is 20 dollars more than rmg easily.

Rmg pays a pittance la.
My friend in rmg getting close to 15k for a 44 hr/week contract. (He works 4x long days, each 11 hrs)
That's around market rate?

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Old 26-03-2023, 01:57 PM
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My friend in rmg getting close to 15k for a 44 hr/week contract. (He works 4x long days, each 11 hrs)
That's around market rate?
It's 3.75k a week
85 an hour.
Cpf about 10 bucks more per hour.

Weekend and evening hours worth more imho.
Hourly rate or not u go figure.
Locum got places pay 120 to 140, of cse no cpf.

In ops, experienced AC gets about 120 an hour before cpf
Office hours, except for the alternate Saturdays.
But of cse they have the coveted m.med la and ish work quite a few years liao

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Old 26-03-2023, 02:13 PM
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lol, sore GP come in to bash ops again. ya la, u bestest street smartest doctor in the whole wide singapore.
We are FPs, would do you good to remember that. so sore haha.
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Old 26-03-2023, 02:57 PM
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To add on, there are differences in chains as well. The first chain I joined had no bonuses nor annual increments at all. Now the different chain that I am in has good annual bonus, mthly variable performance bonus, share options and annual increment. I was pleasantly surprised that the employer cpf of the bonus is not limited to the first S$6k too. Colleagues are also much nicer.
Can i check how much these bonuses compared to OPS? and how much stock
options?

More than OPS 2-3 months a year? thx for sharing really appreciate it.
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Old 26-03-2023, 03:23 PM
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It's 3.75k a week
85 an hour.
Cpf about 10 bucks more per hour.

Weekend and evening hours worth more imho.
Hourly rate or not u go figure.
Locum got places pay 120 to 140, of cse no cpf.

In ops, experienced AC gets about 120 an hour before cpf
Office hours, except for the alternate Saturdays.
But of cse they have the coveted m.med la and ish work quite a few years liao
Only problem is that ops ACs cannot chiong AOH (i.e locum) or else they risk losing their bonus or other disciplinary actions..

One of the reasons I want to leave for private is to really chiong AOH hrs for next 7-8 years until maybe I turn 40 and no more energy. (You may be paid less an HR, but if you work more hrs, total pay still higher), which is impt for young people who want to buy house/car/marry etc..
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Old 26-03-2023, 03:27 PM
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Can i check how much these bonuses compared to OPS? and how much stock
options?

More than OPS 2-3 months a year? thx for sharing really appreciate it.

Raffles stock options is just give u the option to purchase at a price.
Usually give at 10 percent discount to price at a date.
Eg, give u option to buy at 1.4
1 year later is 1.3, of cse u dun exercise since u buy from market cheaper
If 1 year later is 1.5 , u can buy at 1.4 and earn 10 cents per share lo.

But rmg being rmg, share price like that lo.
It's not Amazon from 10 dollar become 2.4k.

Dun get too excited about it.
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Old 26-03-2023, 03:34 PM
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Only problem is that ops ACs cannot chiong AOH (i.e locum) or else they risk losing their bonus or other disciplinary actions..

One of the reasons I want to leave for private is to really chiong AOH hrs for next 7-8 years until maybe I turn 40 and no more energy. (You may be paid less an HR, but if you work more hrs, total pay still higher), which is impt for young people who want to buy house/car/marry etc..
U join chains most of them don't let u locum also on contract

It's a matter of don't get caught.
Find 1 or 2 clinic do there regularly. Dun give them trouble, they also don't give u trouble
Ops get caught is give u warning first one la. They know take away bonus pple sure quit one.

Also, u dun do funny things who go catch u.
Unless suay suay your CEO chong pui nah sick come Ur clinic get MC.
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Old 26-03-2023, 05:48 PM
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U join chains most of them don't let u locum also on contract

It's a matter of don't get caught.
Find 1 or 2 clinic do there regularly. Dun give them trouble, they also don't give u trouble
Ops get caught is give u warning first one la. They know take away bonus pple sure quit one.

Also, u dun do funny things who go catch u.
Unless suay suay your CEO chong pui nah sick come Ur clinic get MC.
You can locum with the chain group. Most chain groups will reserve their slots for their own Drs. (Assuming that you are decent la) .
My friend in a chain group who work 4 long days (44hrs/week), will locum another 2-3 more sessions a week. (Additional 8-9 hrs), his max is work 6 full long days (4 days contracted 2 full days locum)
- his income confirm more than mmeder fp, well at least the junior ones that I spoke to in my polyclinic. (He say can get up to 240-280k/year) But of course he work much more lah. (He chose to chiong average up to 55-65 hrs a week, 44 hrs contracted, rest 10-20 locum, which varied weekly)

This is perfectly legal, don't need to worry about getting caught.
This kind of life tough, most will do it till they have kids or reach 40s then slow down (back to the 44hr week) once they have the savings, their house mortgage stable etc.

I am very old school lol, believe that we should work very hard when young and aim to enjoy the fruits of our labour at a older age and hopefully retire earlier than the official retirement age. That's why I thinking of going private after my residency/mmed this year (hopefully I can leave as a mmeder).
In ops, it's like you want work hard, also no opportunity for more money. Maybe your boss like you, give you more bonus that's it (end up maybe just 1 month more only)
I once ask my polyclinic boss for locum on Sat morning (we schedule to work alternate sat, I volunteer to locum on the other 2 sat that I am off, he say cannot...but maybe also because I still resident, so got rules.) Thought about locum secretly outside but I think risk not worth it- get caught, moh delay your residency progression, lagi jialat.

Sometimes I always wondered if I made the wrong decision in joining residency (and potentially missing a pot of gold during the covid period)... It's like I have no interest in admin, education or research, or complex clinical cases. I just want to work hard, make good money (more the better, but of course in an ethical and legal way lah) and lead a simple mundane life and hopefully retire early

Anyway thanks for reading. Just venting here, as I don't know how to approach my faculty, seems that we on different wavelength with different perception of family medicine.
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