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15-09-2018, 01:05 AM
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Houseman salary
Could some kind soul please advise what is the amount of salary a houseman can get? Thanks for the info. I read it's sgd 4000 a month but is it too high or too low?
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15-09-2018, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
To those who intend on coming here to work, I suggest you look to US/AUS.
HOs basically have to work 80-90hours a week (granted, it's only for a year but how is this not slavery?) for about 2.8k (post CPF). That amounts to about 10 bucks an hour. Following that you work as an MO for about 4k post CPF for roughly the same number of hours per week. Wages haven't increased with inflation and neither has the healthcare budget allocated to healthcare workers' income.
There is a huge bottleneck at the top of the pyramid and MOH is clamping down hard, with all their propaganda promoting primary healthcare. Once again another reactive response and an utter lack of foresight on their part.
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But if you include the on call allowances can a houseman earn up to more than 5k a month?
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16-09-2018, 04:55 PM
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Hi all I was hoping for some advice.
I'm a GP trainee working in the UK, with about 11 months to go before CCT. After I qualify I'm considering moving to Singapore.
Does anyone have any experience of the process post-CCT? Is it possible to go straight into GP practice in Sg or do you have to get registration via the hospitals for 2 years?
I went to an Sg-approved UK medical school but speak mando/canto.
Also would appreciate ballpark figures of expected salary- for reference a newly qualified GP here working as a locum makes £80 (140sgd) an hour, with 10 minute consultation slots, seeing ~14 patients per half day session and handling any associated paperwork (referrals etc).
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16-09-2018, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hi all I was hoping for some advice.
I'm a GP trainee working in the UK, with about 11 months to go before CCT. After I qualify I'm considering moving to Singapore.
Does anyone have any experience of the process post-CCT? Is it possible to go straight into GP practice in Sg or do you have to get registration via the hospitals for 2 years?
I went to an Sg-approved UK medical school but speak mando/canto.
Also would appreciate ballpark figures of expected salary- for reference a newly qualified GP here working as a locum makes £80 (140sgd) an hour, with 10 minute consultation slots, seeing ~14 patients per half day session and handling any associated paperwork (referrals etc).
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You will recieve conditional registration at first, therefore will not be able to practise privately. If you are caught locuming with a conditional registration, your license will be revoked and may sued by the medical registration act.
You need to serve in the public hospital or polyclinic as a RP resident physician (pay is about 5 to 7k per month with 2-3mth bonus in all, making a total of 75-105k pay) effective tax rate at 100k income is around 8%. So compares favourably to UK. Rent in singapore is much cheaper than london. A 600sqft condo rent is just 2 to 2.5k. In london it may be twice as much.
In singapore polyclinic, there is no such thing called ten minute slot.
14 patients per half day session is a bit slow. You will get a lot of complaints from your co MO, bosses, and patients sitting outside your room.
You are expected to see around 50-70 per day.
In Singapore, to enter family physician register typically u need a further graduate diploma or mmed and another further 3 years of practice experience.
Although you have an MRCGP, i would still recommend you to sign up for gdfm. With mrcgp and gdfm, you can apply for full member of college of family physician of singapore and family physician register. GDFM is a two years course and fees of 10k.
In view of increased workload, reduced pay, personally i dont find coming to Singapore a very great option.
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16-09-2018, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
You will recieve conditional registration at first, therefore will not be able to practise privately. If you are caught locuming with a conditional registration, your license will be revoked and may sued by the medical registration act.
You need to serve in the public hospital or polyclinic as a RP resident physician (pay is about 5 to 7k per month with 2-3mth bonus in all, making a total of 75-105k pay) effective tax rate at 100k income is around 8%. So compares favourably to UK. Rent in singapore is much cheaper than london. A 600sqft condo rent is just 2 to 2.5k. In london it may be twice as much.
In singapore polyclinic, there is no such thing called ten minute slot.
14 patients per half day session is a bit slow. You will get a lot of complaints from your co MO, bosses, and patients sitting outside your room.
You are expected to see around 50-70 per day.
In Singapore, to enter family physician register typically u need a further graduate diploma or mmed and another further 3 years of practice experience.
Although you have an MRCGP, i would still recommend you to sign up for gdfm. With mrcgp and gdfm, you can apply for full member of college of family physician of singapore and family physician register. GDFM is a two years course and fees of 10k.
In view of increased workload, reduced pay, personally i dont find coming to Singapore a very great option.
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Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
I would be moving for personal reasons. Love is blind, as the saying goes.
But there is a difference between being blind and comatose, you've given me a lot to think about.
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18-09-2018, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
I would be moving for personal reasons. Love is blind, as the saying goes.
But there is a difference between being blind and comatose, you've given me a lot to think about.
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Due to the local working conditions and lesser remuneration, foreign-trained doctors who come here generally fall into two groups; overseas trained Singaporeans/PRs who return due to family/emotional ties, and foreigners who otherwise cannot qualify to practice in the more stringent Western countries with superior work-life balance and remuneration.
All the best in making your decision.
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18-09-2018, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Due to the local working conditions and lesser remuneration, foreign-trained doctors who come here generally fall into two groups; overseas trained Singaporeans/PRs who return due to family/emotional ties, and foreigners who otherwise cannot qualify to practice in the more stringent Western countries with superior work-life balance and remuneration.
All the best in making your decision.
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overseas trained Singaporeans/PRs who return due to family/emotional ties
haha who you joking?
it is the overseas trained Singaporeans/PRs who cmi overseas, then no choice come back.
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20-09-2018, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
You will recieve conditional registration at first, therefore will not be able to practise privately. If you are caught locuming with a conditional registration, your license will be revoked and may sued by the medical registration act.
You need to serve in the public hospital or polyclinic as a RP resident physician (pay is about 5 to 7k per month with 2-3mth bonus in all, making a total of 75-105k pay) effective tax rate at 100k income is around 8%. So compares favourably to UK. Rent in singapore is much cheaper than london. A 600sqft condo rent is just 2 to 2.5k. In london it may be twice as much.
In singapore polyclinic, there is no such thing called ten minute slot.
14 patients per half day session is a bit slow. You will get a lot of complaints from your co MO, bosses, and patients sitting outside your room.
You are expected to see around 50-70 per day.
In Singapore, to enter family physician register typically u need a further graduate diploma or mmed and another further 3 years of practice experience.
Although you have an MRCGP, i would still recommend you to sign up for gdfm. With mrcgp and gdfm, you can apply for full member of college of family physician of singapore and family physician register. GDFM is a two years course and fees of 10k.
In view of increased workload, reduced pay, personally i dont find coming to Singapore a very great option.
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Hello! Would you be able to advise on houseman pay in Singapore?
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29-09-2018, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
overseas trained Singaporeans/PRs who return due to family/emotional ties
haha who you joking?
it is the overseas trained Singaporeans/PRs who cmi overseas, then no choice come back.
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Are you a foreigner doctor looking to replace Singaporeans/PRs with your own kind? Interesting, look like a medical career is not immune to losing their job to foreigners as well.
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