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Unregistered 30-04-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 216329)
Can I ask if working in polyclinic or any public institution is really a safe haven or iron rice bowl?
I understand from my seniors that they are usually offered 2-3 year contract when they sign on with ops (for fm) or hospital (for AC)
Is there a possibility that they can choose not to renew your contract subsequently or choose to alter the terms (e.g lower pay etc)

No great prophet / oracle / DMS / Min Ong here to answer your question.
But unlikely to happen in the near future.
Pay was only revised (upward) last year. No reason to increase it and bring it back down again few years later.

Unregistered 30-04-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 216347)
No great prophet / oracle / DMS / Min Ong here to answer your question.
But unlikely to happen in the near future.
Pay was only revised (upward) last year. No reason to increase it and bring it back down again few years later.


*pay revision was for OPS. Can’t speak for the rest of the institutions.

Unregistered 01-05-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 216327)
I Know for a fact that for specialist, they will ask how many patients you can bring in/poach over from the public sector?
Not sure if that applies for gp?
I would think that for Chain gp grps, if you can work longer hours/nights (i.e no family commitment), it will be better?


lol
1 doctor ask
3 or 4 replies from people who aren't doctors

1. know for a fact ?
Dude, in SG , the only private hospital that hire specialist is raffles. The rest of the specialist are self employed. Raffles dont need u to poach patients over. You think u are some lawyer going from one firm to another?

2. OPS salary increase last year?
Haha.

3. Where got 2-3 years contract? unless u are some clinical associate or overseas hire. All locals or locally trained ones are hired on a permanent basis with 1 month termination notice that can be given by each side. Its iron long as you do your job.

Unregistered 01-05-2022 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 216448)
lol
1 doctor ask
3 or 4 replies from people who aren't doctors

1. know for a fact ?
Dude, in SG , the only private hospital that hire specialist is raffles. The rest of the specialist are self employed. Raffles dont need u to poach patients over. You think u are some lawyer going from one firm to another?

2. OPS salary increase last year?
Haha.

3. Where got 2-3 years contract? unless u are some clinical associate or overseas hire. All locals or locally trained ones are hired on a permanent basis with 1 month termination notice that can be given by each side. Its iron long as you do your job.

Erm ya, the allowance was increased for AC and above.

Unregistered 09-05-2022 03:50 PM

Just wondering if you are the HR or boss of a chain gp group, what are the things you look out for in potential candidate? Do you look for qualifications (e.g gdfm/mmed etc), work experience (i.e previous mopex postings), commitment (meaning number of hours the candidate can work/slog)?

Unregistered 09-05-2022 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 217252)
Just wondering if you are the HR or boss of a chain gp group, what are the things you look out for in potential candidate? Do you look for qualifications (e.g gdfm/mmed etc), work experience (i.e previous mopex postings), commitment (meaning number of hours the candidate can work/slog)?

whether the person is likeable. cos you need patients to come back.
business mindset. cos you need to generate profit from the clinic which is a business after all.
anyway, most days they hire any tom dick and harry with mbbs. just need a warm body to fill the clinic so they can rake in the cash from run off the mill patients.

Unregistered 19-05-2022 12:42 AM

curious
 
not doctor but clinic assistant. was googling how much doctors earn...my doctor seems to have to work really hard for ??not enough money? (or does it just seem that way)... we are down to counting paper clips and having to set aircon to higher temperature cos boss say need to save money. Is the economy really so bad? per day we collect about 1600 dollars, but idk how much rental and all costs mann

Unregistered 19-05-2022 03:37 PM

How much is MOCC allowance for 1st LT?

Unregistered 19-05-2022 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218272)
How much is MOCC allowance for 1st LT?

Dont be lazy.
Just work off duty

Lutfi 20-05-2022 02:36 AM

What do Pes A MOs do for reservice? Is it shag? And do you still serve until 55?

Unregistered 20-05-2022 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lutfi (Post 218320)
What do Pes A MOs do for reservice? Is it shag? And do you still serve until 55?

Commando MO. MR by 35?

Unregistered 20-05-2022 07:08 AM

I think u need to go for ranger course to be commando MO and you MR when you complete 10 cycles.

Lutfi 20-05-2022 11:38 PM

Perhaps more context will help. I'm graduating med sch soon, coming back from Aus to Sg for work. Was wondering if it is worth it to go through MOCC, and become an MO, or stay as a man (combat medic)

Unregistered 21-05-2022 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lutfi (Post 218467)
Perhaps more context will help. I'm graduating med sch soon, coming back from Aus to Sg for work. Was wondering if it is worth it to go through MOCC, and become an MO, or stay as a man (combat medic)

I stayed as man. Even my classmate who is ed con also stayed as man.

Unregistered 21-05-2022 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lutfi (Post 218467)
Perhaps more context will help. I'm graduating med sch soon, coming back from Aus to Sg for work. Was wondering if it is worth it to go through MOCC, and become an MO, or stay as a man (combat medic)

As in u must have officer qualities to be ns mo.
While u might be a gd civilian doc, u do not fit the saf stringent criteria for mocc

Lutfi 21-05-2022 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218474)
As in u must have officer qualities to be ns mo.
While u might be a gd civilian doc, u do not fit the saf stringent criteria for mocc

Just trying to find out which has the path of least resistance for me for reservice. Less shag the better

Unregistered 21-05-2022 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lutfi (Post 218540)
Just trying to find out which has the path of least resistance for me for reservice. Less shag the better

nothing is more shagged than every other day call. and no post call as a HO.
good character building.

Unregistered 22-05-2022 12:09 AM

I'm a returning plastic surgeon in my early 30s. I was previously a 1st lieutenant in Artillery. Is it worthwhile doing the MOCC or stay in combat? Is there a truncated version of MOCC for NSMen?

Unregistered 23-05-2022 09:43 AM

what do u all forsee happening to locum drs as CTF and Vaccine hubs shut down

Unregistered 23-05-2022 02:06 PM

What are the differences between single-accredited IM, advanced IM, and now the new Hospital Clinician Scheme (with RPs being phased out)? Other than the former 2 being SAB accredited and having undergone formal residency training. HCS seems like the US hospitalist system but without the IM board certification. Why not consolidate all primary care programs into either an IM or FM residency like other countries?

Unregistered 23-05-2022 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218780)
What are the differences between single-accredited IM, advanced IM, and now the new Hospital Clinician Scheme (with RPs being phased out)? Other than the former 2 being SAB accredited and having undergone formal residency training. HCS seems like the US hospitalist system but without the IM board certification. Why not consolidate all primary care programs into either an IM or FM residency like other countries?

Single accredited I'm = advanced I'm

May or may not have jobs

Coz consultant level jobs are not a lot

Hospital clinician scheme is at mid level.
u pass Ur MRCP, u can be at reg level
But not at consultant level

But hospital clinician got job

Unregistered 23-05-2022 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218780)
What are the differences between single-accredited IM, advanced IM, and now the new Hospital Clinician Scheme (with RPs being phased out)? Other than the former 2 being SAB accredited and having undergone formal residency training. HCS seems like the US hospitalist system but without the IM board certification. Why not consolidate all primary care programs into either an IM or FM residency like other countries?

Im must not be consolidated
Im is really impt.
The medicine thinking, the mrcp thinking

Is not something fm can do

Unregistered 23-05-2022 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218780)
What are the differences between single-accredited IM, advanced IM, and now the new Hospital Clinician Scheme (with RPs being phased out)? Other than the former 2 being SAB accredited and having undergone formal residency training. HCS seems like the US hospitalist system but without the IM board certification. Why not consolidate all primary care programs into either an IM or FM residency like other countries?

which country has IM and FM combined?

usa got primary care geared im residency. that's about it.

Unregistered 24-05-2022 10:08 PM

Hi guys, HO here who has just started out! After my 5th call I look down the road and realise I don't think I can do this for the rest of my life. I used to have dreams of becoming a cardiologist but looking at the road ahead and the saikang a GM junior MO has to do before fighting for senior residency I don't think it may be worth it anymore. Wanted to ask about what is the best way to plan MOPEX such that I can avoid calls and perhaps have more time for other things? Am sorry, am struggling to adapt

Unregistered 24-05-2022 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218997)
Hi guys, HO here who has just started out! After my 5th call I look down the road and realise I don't think I can do this for the rest of my life. I used to have dreams of becoming a cardiologist but looking at the road ahead and the saikang a GM junior MO has to do before fighting for senior residency I don't think it may be worth it anymore. Wanted to ask about what is the best way to plan MOPEX such that I can avoid calls and perhaps have more time for other things? Am sorry, am struggling to adapt


Very hard. Looks like you are stuck. But you will adapt and get better. I was suicidal for 3 months for my first HO posting. Lost a lot of weight. Sleepless nights. But things got better with 2nd posting. Choose more senang postings.

Unregistered 25-05-2022 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218997)
Hi guys, HO here who has just started out! After my 5th call I look down the road and realise I don't think I can do this for the rest of my life. I used to have dreams of becoming a cardiologist but looking at the road ahead and the saikang a GM junior MO has to do before fighting for senior residency I don't think it may be worth it anymore. Wanted to ask about what is the best way to plan MOPEX such that I can avoid calls and perhaps have more time for other things? Am sorry, am struggling to adapt

Dont worry now is just the 5th call.
U will adapt one

When u become mo is okie alr.
U will be battle hardened.

I was like that too

Unregistered 25-05-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 215147)
There’s always demand everywhere.
Chains want to expand.
People want to open their own clinics and hire.
Businessmen want to open clinics and hire minion GPs.

Does that mean that if you are happy to work for someone and be a minion gp, there is always jobs for you?

Unregistered 25-05-2022 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219051)
Does that mean that if you are happy to work for someone and be a minion gp, there is always jobs for you?

Yup. There are plenty of minion GP jobs around.
Regular clinics. Telemedicine. Health screening. Etc etc.
when there’s money to be made, you can be sure minion slave GPs will be needed to run the show and bring in the dough.

Unregistered 25-05-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218997)
Hi guys, HO here who has just started out! After my 5th call I look down the road and realise I don't think I can do this for the rest of my life. I used to have dreams of becoming a cardiologist but looking at the road ahead and the saikang a GM junior MO has to do before fighting for senior residency I don't think it may be worth it anymore. Wanted to ask about what is the best way to plan MOPEX such that I can avoid calls and perhaps have more time for other things? Am sorry, am struggling to adapt

Hey. Don’t worry. After the 5th call, most aspiring cardiologist oncologist surgeons etc will wanna quit.
Rough it out first for the first year and don’t make your plans now when you are feeling down.
Do your best in your postings, it will serve you well to build a good reputation.

If you want a way out, there’s always a way next time but don’t burn your bridges too soon.

Unregistered 25-05-2022 10:15 PM

what is the current anchor GP rate for someone with experience eg) polyclinic exp
I was offered 11-12 k but feeling like low-balled

heard of ppl getting 15k, but so far none offered this

Unregistered 25-05-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219129)
what is the current anchor GP rate for someone with experience eg) polyclinic exp
I was offered 11-12 k but feeling like low-balled

heard of ppl getting 15k, but so far none offered this

u what qualifications and experience?
15k is usually hit the ground running gp who can anchor a clinic.
some polyclinic experience think you v skati ?

Unregistered 25-05-2022 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219129)
what is the current anchor GP rate for someone with experience eg) polyclinic exp
I was offered 11-12 k but feeling like low-balled

heard of ppl getting 15k, but so far none offered this

11-12k sounds like RMG
What are the hours like.
Cannot compare the monthly pay without comparing hours.
Experience or not, usually not important and doesn’t count for much in terms of pay tbh.
As I said - chains just need a minion to warm the seat.

Unregistered 26-05-2022 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219129)
what is the current anchor GP rate for someone with experience eg) polyclinic exp
I was offered 11-12 k but feeling like low-balled

heard of ppl getting 15k, but so far none offered this

Having experience in polyclinic does not really translate into being a successful GP in terms of $$$ and business.

Neither does being a good GP who follows all the clinical recommendations and does the "correct" thing that is taught by profs and senior drs in institution translate into being a financially successful GP.

In the private GP market, the customers want a friendly accommodating GP who listens to them, does what they want, gives them good results and is reasonable price wise.

The clinical targets and what not KPI stuff you have in Polyclinic means nothing in private sector. Some patients might be even pissed off you "insist" they do this and that when they don't want to.

But still need to practice safely so you dont get in trouble. It's more a balance of pleasing the customer and doing the right things and making money.

Med school and hospital and polyclinic dont teach any of this to anyone.

Unregistered 29-05-2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219129)
what is the current anchor GP rate for someone with experience eg) polyclinic exp
I was offered 11-12 k but feeling like low-balled

heard of ppl getting 15k, but so far none offered this

Oh dear, thats very very low.

Doctors very poor now.

U should be full time locum

Unregistered 29-05-2022 06:04 PM

Any locum lobang?

How much can a full time locum earn say 8-5, 5 days a week?
How hard is it to get locum slots
I know of locumsg but anything else

pandan 30-05-2022 05:34 PM

RP in comm hospital
 
Does anyone have any experience working as RP in comm hosp?

What are the hours like and what background is needed to get hired?

Thanks!

Unregistered 30-05-2022 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pandan (Post 219714)
Does anyone have any experience working as RP in comm hosp?

What are the hours like and what background is needed to get hired?

Thanks!

essentially...u apply , u will get hired .
mostly 8 to 5.

have to do calls and weekend round once in a while. but calls is not like hospital where u clerk admission all the time. I have calls where I spend the whole night sleeping.
u can progress to senior. if go fam med route, do your dip fam med then m.med then fcfp.
if mrcp, usually senior straight and then can do the fcfp with dip f med route

Unregistered 01-06-2022 11:53 PM

Hi, PGY3 here. Looking to break bond. Are there groups nowadays that buyout full bond amount? Have some offers but only partial buyouts. Thanks

Unregistered 03-06-2022 12:39 AM

Different countries different expectations...even in neighbouring countries the general practitioner is expected to know how to manage normal pregnancies, conduct delivery , do ultrasound bedside , do paeds follow up, do minor surgery like circumcision ( tonnes of religious circumcisions if only urologists do them they'll have time for nothing else). And that is why in bolehland which some people look down on, after their gdfm equivalent they can take further exams culminating in an international fracgp. They can then work one year in Australia to upgrade it to full fracgp.

Unregistered 03-06-2022 11:58 AM

Government pays locum much much more than their own staff who is doing equal/more work . Enough said.


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