How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No one cares. Money buys the biggest respect. And unfortunately GP is the lowest paid in medicine. So how do you expect people to respect you unless you are not dependent on your job to be rich (ie already born to a rich family/marry to a rich family)

Agree. But I don't really see being a doctor as the mean to get rich.
I always wonder why the bar to enter aesthetic is so low, given that is it a money generating field. With the exception if you are a nerdy looking not conventionally good looking, everyone can enter the field.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agree. But I don't really see being a doctor as the mean to get rich.
I always wonder why the bar to enter aesthetic is so low, given that is it a money generating field. With the exception if you are a nerdy looking not conventionally good looking, everyone can enter the field.

Because more than 70% of the class are going for their interests and to most, that means specialisation. maybe only 10-30% are money motivated but even then not all of them are willing to adapt themselves to fit aesthetics. you need to be a beauty salesman and attend networking events and pander to rich clients. so the actual number that lands up there are more like less than 30% of the class.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is the high intensity and circadian disruption thing mostly bs as long as you know how to maintain a healthy lifestyle outside of EM?

Wonder how tolling it is. Seems to be ok given worst case just compete with regular GPs while going overseas EM are well comped in Aus/Canada plus possibility to stack days for holidays without taking leaves

not bullsheet la. Rotating shift do put your health at risk. It's a well studied topic

Originally Posted by Unregistered

EM is attractive because you work longer hours and shift work, but less days. example you work 3- 4 days a week and then the rest of the day you are off. so you can schedule more holidays with family. life also gets better with seniority.
not forgetting to mention that it is easy to get a job anywhere in the world and more likely to be recognised by their specialist board after a few years of working there.

EM is my first rotation in HO, but i ruled it out very quickly as i like working in outpatient setting, no ward rounds or standing around for a long time. that ruled out many specialties.

You intern overseas is it? Sounds like Australia where A&E is a compulsory rotation. SG HO posting no A&E posting.
aiyah, I intern in auzzie i also think i can do A&E. 8 shift in 14 days. Consultant get 6 clinical shift and 2 other shift is teaching / admin. Their rooster planner also very nice, always group the nights and evening together give u one block in a month. End up u only have to shift your sleep cycle twice a month.

Come back SG , zzz, work in A&E i die. They plan the rooster by the week. One week work about 5 days. Shift can night jump to morning to night within 1 week. I was like WTF??
One month in i'm a bit zombified. SG A&E also got IM resident rotating through. Aiyoh, some of the most anal piece of sheets i ever meet. Plus somehow SG A&E super busy, i end shift still full of adrenaline cannot sleep.
Dun think i can do this for life.

ahah, i not pro like some of the pple on this forum , go aesthetics earn 400k or 600k or what not. I might be more suitable as the "before model" than the "after sample" in terms of looks. It's like a BMI 35 doing obesity medicine. Who will believe me? Choose FM. No competition then. No CV, no LOR nothing get in. No one wants back then.

Now regular 8-4:30.
See simple stuff. Anything more complex, i tell patient paiseh ah, i polyclinic doctor nia, i also not sure but i make sure i find the expert to treat you, refer and then move on. Not my problem liao. Hehe, sometimes i know but aiyah, why bother.. just a GP nia. I'm fine if patient nor colleagues have no respect for me. I get to do the easy stuff and get paid relatively well. Act blur , live easier.
if time MC and leave well, sometimes i get 5 days off during long weekends for my own mini-holiday. No go clinic , they close queue, no stress.

slowly farm lo. 300K a year. I reckon in another 10 years can part time or ask for no pay leave for half a year when my dividend income rise to 150K annually. Then slowly chill and locum away.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You intern overseas is it? Sounds like Australia where A&E is a compulsory rotation. SG HO posting no A&E posting.
aiyah, I intern in auzzie i also think i can do A&E. 8 shift in 14 days. Consultant get 6 clinical shift and 2 other shift is teaching / admin. Their rooster planner also very nice, always group the nights and evening together give u one block in a month. End up u only have to shift your sleep cycle twice a month.

Come back SG , zzz, work in A&E i die. They plan the rooster by the week. One week work about 5 days. Shift can night jump to morning to night within 1 week. I was like WTF??
One month in i'm a bit zombified. SG A&E also got IM resident rotating through. Aiyoh, some of the most anal piece of sheets i ever meet. Plus somehow SG A&E super busy, i end shift still full of adrenaline cannot sleep.
Dun think i can do this for life.

ahah, i not pro like some of the pple on this forum , go aesthetics earn 400k or 600k or what not. I might be more suitable as the "before model" than the "after sample" in terms of looks. It's like a BMI 35 doing obesity medicine. Who will believe me? Choose FM. No competition then. No CV, no LOR nothing get in. No one wants back then.

Now regular 8-4:30.
See simple stuff. Anything more complex, i tell patient paiseh ah, i polyclinic doctor nia, i also not sure but i make sure i find the expert to treat you, refer and then move on. Not my problem liao. Hehe, sometimes i know but aiyah, why bother.. just a GP nia. I'm fine if patient nor colleagues have no respect for me. I get to do the easy stuff and get paid relatively well. Act blur , live easier.
if time MC and leave well, sometimes i get 5 days off during long weekends for my own mini-holiday. No go clinic , they close queue, no stress.

slowly farm lo. 300K a year. I reckon in another 10 years can part time or ask for no pay leave for half a year when my dividend income rise to 150K annually. Then slowly chill and locum away.

I interned in the UK. I heard aus EM shifts are really great and many Brits fell in love with EM there.

I same as you. Want to work hard on passive income. Don't want to chiong medicine. But walao your dividend is already over 100k now? My passive income covered my living expenses, but I am thrifty lo.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You intern overseas is it? Sounds like Australia where A&E is a compulsory rotation. SG HO posting no A&E posting.
aiyah, I intern in auzzie i also think i can do A&E. 8 shift in 14 days. Consultant get 6 clinical shift and 2 other shift is teaching / admin. Their rooster planner also very nice, always group the nights and evening together give u one block in a month. End up u only have to shift your sleep cycle twice a month.

Come back SG , zzz, work in A&E i die. They plan the rooster by the week. One week work about 5 days. Shift can night jump to morning to night within 1 week. I was like WTF??
One month in i'm a bit zombified. SG A&E also got IM resident rotating through. Aiyoh, some of the most anal piece of sheets i ever meet. Plus somehow SG A&E super busy, i end shift still full of adrenaline cannot sleep.
Dun think i can do this for life.

ahah, i not pro like some of the pple on this forum , go aesthetics earn 400k or 600k or what not. I might be more suitable as the "before model" than the "after sample" in terms of looks. It's like a BMI 35 doing obesity medicine. Who will believe me? Choose FM. No competition then. No CV, no LOR nothing get in. No one wants back then.

Now regular 8-4:30.
See simple stuff. Anything more complex, i tell patient paiseh ah, i polyclinic doctor nia, i also not sure but i make sure i find the expert to treat you, refer and then move on. Not my problem liao. Hehe, sometimes i know but aiyah, why bother.. just a GP nia. I'm fine if patient nor colleagues have no respect for me. I get to do the easy stuff and get paid relatively well. Act blur , live easier.
if time MC and leave well, sometimes i get 5 days off during long weekends for my own mini-holiday. No go clinic , they close queue, no stress.

slowly farm lo. 300K a year. I reckon in another 10 years can part time or ask for no pay leave for half a year when my dividend income rise to 150K annually. Then slowly chill and locum away.

I interned in UK. i heard about the attractive working hours of EM in Aus. Many brits loved it.

Do the shifts jumped from night to day for EM consultants too? If yes, really jialat to be doing it in 50s.

i really LOLed at your analogy of the before and after photos. i think most aesthetic clinics give out free aesthetic treatment to their staff. my friend even sent his staff to see the dermatologist for acne because he said cannot be frontline staff with a face full of acne in this field.

too fat, patients said you fat. too skinny, patient said you skinny.

you are really good in investing. over 100k dividend a year. i earn 5 figures in passive income a year only. so damn sien lo. do you only invest in s&p500 and blue chips?

do you think it is better to be a RP or a GP? both also can act stupid by saying 'i not specialist'. i guess GP earns more?

do EM consultants in SG shifts jump from nigght to day too? or they get better with seniority?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I interned in UK. i heard about the attractive working hours of EM in Aus. Many brits loved it.

Do the shifts jumped from night to day for EM consultants too? If yes, really jialat to be doing it in 50s.

i really LOLed at your analogy of the before and after photos. i think most aesthetic clinics give out free aesthetic treatment to their staff. my friend even sent his staff to see the dermatologist for acne because he said cannot be frontline staff with a face full of acne in this field.

too fat, patients said you fat. too skinny, patient said you skinny.

you are really good in investing. over 100k dividend a year. i earn 5 figures in passive income a year only. so damn sien lo. do you only invest in s&p500 and blue chips?

do you think it is better to be a RP or a GP? both also can act stupid by saying 'i not specialist'. i guess GP earns more?

You can’t compare with him. He’s probably older more time to save money. You should compare with people of your own age

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You can’t compare with him. He’s probably older more time to save money. You should compare with people of your own age

I am not a spring chicken either. I suspect we are of the same generation doctor. how many people, even at retirement age can build 6 figure dividend pa? lihai

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am not a spring chicken either. I suspect we are of the same generation doctor. how many people, even at retirement age can build 6 figure dividend pa? lihai

6 figure dividend. $100k
Say 5% dividend means principal is 2mil.
2mil if each year accumulate 100k will take 20 years.
But compound and reinvesting dividend into stock will maybe abt 15-18 years?

If you no car, simple hdb. I think quite straight forward. Start at 30, by 48 should be okie liao