How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There are also differences in the health systems between countries. These are things that also need some getting used to. Different expectations from patients. Culture.

Training abroad , completing all your training then going to SG to be a specialist is not ideal.

Are specialists who trained abroad able to jump straight into private sector?

Yes have actually. Need a few more years of soecialsit expeirence first tho. Things like cultured and expectations can be learnt within 3-6 months if ur competent. Id rather take 3-6 months to get used to the culture than train in singapore and risk never getting into the residency i want or to have to suffer for all the junior years. This is a clear answer

the only people who argue against training overseas are the salty ones who were bonded and never had the option.

Simple question for u

Would u rather train overseas and return as a consultant to SG then work in PHI for a few years before attempting a switch to private? or would u be in singapore and become a family med practitioner? This is given that only 30 percent of each batch gets to specialise in singapore now

My friends parents were all doctors growing up and many of them trained overseas before returning to sg. They also had the chance and access to the best fellowships and international training and connections that benefitted their private practice

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes have actually. Need a few more years of soecialsit expeirence first tho. Things like cultured and expectations can be learnt within 3-6 months if ur competent. Id rather take 3-6 months to get used to the culture than train in singapore and risk never getting into the residency i want or to have to suffer for all the junior years. This is a clear answer

the only people who argue against training overseas are the salty ones who were bonded and never had the option.

Simple question for u

Would u rather train overseas and return as a consultant to SG then work in PHI for a few years before attempting a switch to private? or would u be in singapore and become a family med practitioner? This is given that only 30 percent of each batch gets to specialise in singapore now

My friends parents were all doctors growing up and many of them trained overseas before returning to sg. They also had the chance and access to the best fellowships and international training and connections that benefitted their private practice

Are you sure that specialist trained abroad can jumped straight into private practise without working in public sector first? I think the rule is you need to get full reg first in public sector

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you sure that specialist trained abroad can jumped straight into private practise without working in public sector first? I think the rule is you need to get full reg first in public sector

Yes, sure. You can read the fine print of the MOH website. However, you need to work as a specialist in the country of training for 5 years before this is possible

The reason u see most working in public first is
1. to get used to the singapore healthcare system
2. Return right after training rather than working in the country of specialty training
3. Become more well known

U can be employed in private under conditional reg and I think in some cases full reg is possible right away but this is very rare only for very highly distinguished folks. Either way isnt life pretty good as a singapore public sector cons?

Is there a retirement age for senior con on phi ? See so many of them .. zzzz

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is there a retirement age for senior con on phi ? See so many of them .. zzzz

Got. A lot of them arent even getting full pay AFAIK.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

US the program itself isn’t the one doing the certification. It’s the american board of xyz that’s certifying to get the public cons job. Typically need some experience as a consultant in the US frist for this. But US same issue as SG in terms of hours so it’s out of the frying pan into the fire

Hey bro, thanks a lot for your reply!
Yes, I am aware that it is board based in the US - but is SG hospital still very pedigree based? I wonder if returning SG will be very tough given SG is training more doctors and every year we have UK/Aus grads returning as well.

Does training location matter in terms of getting a consultant / academic appointment?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes have actually. Need a few more years of soecialsit expeirence first tho. Things like cultured and expectations can be learnt within 3-6 months if ur competent. Id rather take 3-6 months to get used to the culture than train in singapore and risk never getting into the residency i want or to have to suffer for all the junior years. This is a clear answer

the only people who argue against training overseas are the salty ones who were bonded and never had the option.

Simple question for u

Would u rather train overseas and return as a consultant to SG then work in PHI for a few years before attempting a switch to private? or would u be in singapore and become a family med practitioner? This is given that only 30 percent of each batch gets to specialise in singapore now

My friends parents were all doctors growing up and many of them trained overseas before returning to sg. They also had the chance and access to the best fellowships and international training and connections that benefitted their private practice

Just a quick question - aren't Singapore med schools / public hospitals so cutthroat that most folks have lots of pubs and a lot more clinical experience given the patient load in SG is significantly more than UK/Aus?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just a quick question - aren't Singapore med schools / public hospitals so cutthroat that most folks have lots of pubs and a lot more clinical experience given the patient load in SG is significantly more than UK/Aus?

Actually this isn’t the case. The UK can’t really be generalised because the different areas get such different patient loads. Any of the london medical schools and hospitals have similar patient loads and hospital experience as SG hospitals. Additionally, because of the singaporean mindset of needing to score and score to place residency, little time is left for pubs. On the other hand, a lot of my UK peers who i see returning have a lot more pubs on average because they had more time and freedom. Meanwhile i was so covered in work from school that i had barely any time to get to publications

I think ur right about Aus tho

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hey bro, thanks a lot for your reply!
Yes, I am aware that it is board based in the US - but is SG hospital still very pedigree based? I wonder if returning SG will be very tough given SG is training more doctors and every year we have UK/Aus grads returning as well.

Does training location matter in terms of getting a consultant / academic appointment?

If ur returning post training then i don’t think it’s very hard because there’s very few singaporean’s who go to the US and there also very few returning from US. Your not
competing with the med students but rather those who have already completed training. I think if ur board certified shouldn’t have an issue

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Actually this isn’t the case. The UK can’t really be generalised because the different areas get such different patient loads. Any of the london medical schools and hospitals have similar patient loads and hospital experience as SG hospitals. Additionally, because of the singaporean mindset of needing to score and score to place residency, little time is left for pubs. On the other hand, a lot of my UK peers who i see returning have a lot more pubs on average because they had more time and freedom. Meanwhile i was so covered in work from school that i had barely any time to get to publications

I think ur right about Aus tho

sorry. 'score and score' what?