How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi. Please could you share how you get all the COCs? Looking to join the aesthetic field too.

I did my HO year in UK (they call it F1 there).. pretty relaxed working hours around 48 hours average a week. Around 45 days of annual leave including public holidays

So I had a lot of time to do a PGDip (derm) and also complete a level 7 aesthetic trainer provider programme

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Demand and supply

When your senior was in the market there was a lot less supply than demand

Now everyone is jumping into the bandwagon

Not realising one day when it all crumbles they will have forgotten everything else apart from botox and lasers

this is the funniest thing ive ever heard. You do realise the aesthetic clinics, unlike gov organisations, will revise salaries quickly in response to market changes. If it is as you say, seniors' incomes would likewise decrease but this isnt the case

To the young MO: It is because u likely will spend a lot of time learning and ur revenue generated will be lower. You are also inexperienced as of now and are more replacable. Build your portfolio and focus on practising safely and giving customers postive experiences. Over time ur income sure climb

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I did my HO year in UK (they call it F1 there).. pretty relaxed working hours around 48 hours average a week. Around 45 days of annual leave including public holidays

So I had a lot of time to do a PGDip (derm) and also complete a level 7 aesthetic trainer provider programme

Are you currently working in aesthetics in Singapore? If you are, would you mind sharing what you started at and what your progression has been? Keen to know before I take the leap. In the UK in Med school rn and leaning towards that already

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you currently working in aesthetics in Singapore? If you are, would you mind sharing what you started at and what your progression has been? Keen to know before I take the leap. In the UK in Med school rn and leaning towards that already

Really counting eggs before they hatch. First you will need to graduate, then come back as a acopic HO like majority of the IMG HOs, or stay in UK for 2 years of foundation training and come back as an acopic MO where your co-MO will need to cover or your local graduate HO will need to help you. Then need to rotate for a few more years before you turn your conditional regirstration to full registration before you can even think about transiting to aesthetics. This is at least a good 5 years from now. Market would be grossly different.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Really counting eggs before they hatch. First you will need to graduate, then come back as a acopic HO like majority of the IMG HOs, or stay in UK for 2 years of foundation training and come back as an acopic MO where your co-MO will need to cover or your local graduate HO will need to help you. Then need to rotate for a few more years before you turn your conditional regirstration to full registration before you can even think about transiting to aesthetics. This is at least a good 5 years from now. Market would be grossly different.

Planning ahead is now considered counting eggs before they hatch. This sounds like a jaded person serving their bond

I am in my last year of med school, so would be getting all the COCs and cert next year during F1 then come back. I'd then have to work a couple years before a move to aesthetics but planning ahead would help me decide whether to do f1 in the UK or HO in SG based on either deciding to enter aesthetics or trying for residency. After I am in SG, I could network with those in aesthetics if i have already planned ahead

Your comments are neither constructive nor useful. U genuinely sound ignorant and unhappy there is no need to project

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Planning ahead is now considered counting eggs before they hatch. This sounds like a jaded person serving their bond

I am in my last year of med school, so would be getting all the COCs and cert next year during F1 then come back. I'd then have to work a couple years before a move to aesthetics but planning ahead would help me decide whether to do f1 in the UK or HO in SG based on either deciding to enter aesthetics or trying for residency. After I am in SG, I could network with those in aesthetics if i have already planned ahead

Your comments are neither constructive nor useful. U genuinely sound ignorant and unhappy there is no need to project

Good luck surviving HO year in SG as a UK IMG.. would strongly discourage going back for HO year in SG.. HOs are the bottom of the chain in SG and the welfare is seriously lacking compared to the UK. You don’t get time off for self training and you have to work 30 hour shifts all for a pittance of around $4500/month..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Planning ahead is now considered counting eggs before they hatch. This sounds like a jaded person serving their bond

I am in my last year of med school, so would be getting all the COCs and cert next year during F1 then come back. I'd then have to work a couple years before a move to aesthetics but planning ahead would help me decide whether to do f1 in the UK or HO in SG based on either deciding to enter aesthetics or trying for residency. After I am in SG, I could network with those in aesthetics if i have already planned ahead

Your comments are neither constructive nor useful. U genuinely sound ignorant and unhappy there is no need to project

Nowadays many top aesthetic chains require either a PgDip or aesthetic board qualification in order to be shortlisted as a successful candidate. If you think you can do those while going through HO/MOPEX in SG, better think again. I know a successful aesthetic doctor who’s the boss of 3 clinics who went the UK route before returning as an MO. He did his certs in the UK and even accumulated some work experience at some clinics there. Naturally he was able to transition well into the aesthetic market in SG because he already had a headstart in the UK

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Good luck surviving HO year in SG as a UK IMG.. would strongly discourage going back for HO year in SG.. HOs are the bottom of the chain in SG and the welfare is seriously lacking compared to the UK. You don’t get time off for self training and you have to work 30 hour shifts all for a pittance of around $4500/month..

Yea def wont be serving HO year in singapore if the plan is to do aesthetics but if the plan is to pursue residency in singapore, wouldnt it be much better to do HO in Singapore to adjust to the system and get to know seniors?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Realistically, probably not. Yes to working harder, but competition should be the same. 7 of us in the same year, four went to Singapore. Of these four, they are in FM, GP, plastic surgery and ortho.

Nice to hear. As it currently stands I am debating between aesthetics and my specialty of interest. Would much much rather the latter but if push comes to shove id rather do aesthetics than be a GP

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yea def wont be serving HO year in singapore if the plan is to do aesthetics but if the plan is to pursue residency in singapore, wouldnt it be much better to do HO in Singapore to adjust to the system and get to know seniors?

You need to be more specific. It depends on what speciality you are looking at. Some specialities like Pediatrics are less competitive to enter in the UK compared to SG. In general, everything is more competitive in SG because there’s fewer spots available. It’s also a bit more subjective because connections do matter (that’s when the local grads have an advantage)

If you want to do aesthetics the best path is to spend your F1 and F2 in the UK and get your certs and training done. You can then return as a conditional reg MO to SG. Still subject to bad working hours but at least better than returning as a 0 experience HO at the whims and fancies of seniors who will work you to the bone