How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The thing is a very substantial majority of these indians and pakistanis get stuck in service provision roles and never actually make it onto specialty training but apply anyway. Thus the competition ratios are artificially inflated by these guys. the pay point stands but u compare 2 options

Option 1- return to sg and work but no residency because cant get in. Short term ROI better and likely beat the Uk option by around 300k-400k in a 7 year timespan

Option 2- Specialise and come back. Lose by 300-400k in the 7 year time span but return as a specialist. Work public then go private. Long term ROI much better but short run really bad.

Ig most cannot stomach option 2. I did my rads training in a low cost area so still okay. My pay is not much lower than SG after locums. I think if i returned to SG immediately I may not be able to get into training.

I think most singaporeans leave after FY2 after they find out they couldn’t get into a good run-through training number in rads,opth or obgyn for example. It’s also attractive to do HO year in the UK compared to SG, because the hours are much better. And don’t lose much income because it’s only a year

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Depends what specialty.

But I think whichever option gives confirmation of training and the end point of being a recognized specialist in SG that would be the better option. Option 1 is more like best case scenario have your cake and eat it.

If you are willing to take the risk and you have a rich family, you can consider taking gap year to study for usmle and apply for residency in the USA.

Specialities like peds, path, internal med, family med, or even EM/Neurology, is well within reach for IMGs.

Only caveat is the difficult exams and the hefty cost of application

Did those doctors that moonlighted at manadr got dismissed just because they moonlighted? Wah, this is very harsh.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The thing is a very substantial majority of these indians and pakistanis get stuck in service provision roles and never actually make it onto specialty training but apply anyway. Thus the competition ratios are artificially inflated by these guys. the pay point stands but u compare 2 options

Option 1- return to sg and work but no residency because cant get in. Short term ROI better and likely beat the Uk option by around 300k-400k in a 7 year timespan

Option 2- Specialise and come back. Lose by 300-400k in the 7 year time span but return as a specialist. Work public then go private. Long term ROI much better but short run really bad.

Ig most cannot stomach option 2. I did my rads training in a low cost area so still okay. My pay is not much lower than SG after locums. I think if i returned to SG immediately I may not be able to get into training.

Wow 😯 is it that difficult to get into training in sg?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wow 😯 is it that difficult to get into training in sg?

Realistically, probably not. Yes to working harder, but competition should be the same. 7 of us in the same year, four went to Singapore. Of these four, they are in FM, GP, plastic surgery and ortho.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Did those doctors that moonlighted at manadr got dismissed just because they moonlighted? Wah, this is very harsh.

Must pay back bond money.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Must pay back bond money.

Got dismissed and pay back bond are not harsh. Harsh would be revoking license to practise.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Got dismissed and pay back bond are not harsh. Harsh would be revoking license to practise.

If purely just moonlighting it is harsh. If there is negligent of care and cause harm to patients then yes, revoke their practising license.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If purely just moonlighting it is harsh. If there is negligent of care and cause harm to patients then yes, revoke their practising license.

Think there is some element of 10 sec consultations just for the purpose of MC.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Got dismissed and pay back bond are not harsh. Harsh would be revoking license to practise.

Bond no issue la. Most doctors are relatively rich or upper middle class anw. And moonlight already earn enough to easily cover the liquidated damage