How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

gotta do what u gotta do. Imma lick all the boots then one day become a consultant that treats my med students and MOs well regardless

as a con, you also need to lick sc and hod boots
as a hod you also need to lick ur cmb boots
as a cmb, you also need to lick ur ceo boots
as a ceo, you also need to lick ur gceo boots
as a gceo, you also need to lick dms, minister, moh boots
as a minister, you also need to lick ur pm, constituency boots

no matter where u r , u need to lick boots one till one day u die
then u can be free

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If I was in SG rn id just be getting into residency after bootlicking and fervently praying and finish 5 years later to make 300k sgd as surgical AC. I’m literally going to finish in 6 years time to make minimally 500k USD or higher and then can return to sg in the future once I want to settle down. I’ve also got world class education at a globally recognised T10 and can move to beautiful countries like switzerland or thr UAE with 0 issue. I don’t get what the allure of local uni is. My undergrad was paid for by full ride scholarship and my cost of med school is only about 200k more than SG. Instead of struggling for resale HDB and BTO i can just come back to SG when i have money to buy a spacious condo

Honestly, if you could get into a US med school as a foreigner, you probably could get into local residency without much difficulty. I know good people who applied to many US med schools and didn't even get a single invite. So either way doing residency in the US (either as an IMG or as foreigner in US MD school) is no less arduous than what we have to do locally. In the end, pay is generally higher in the US, but pay and welfare is better during residency in SG.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly, if you could get into a US med school as a foreigner, you probably could get into local residency without much difficulty. I know good people who applied to many US med schools and didn't even get a single invite. So either way doing residency in the US (either as an IMG or as foreigner in US MD school) is no less arduous than what we have to do locally. In the end, pay is generally higher in the US, but pay and welfare is better during residency in SG.

Yea that’s true. I love all my singaporeans friends dearly as well. No hate to anyone in singapore I think i definitely has its merits too which is why I intend to return eventually but this one guy had a very close minded definition of what a smart student could and would do which irked me. But yea I think I could get in in sg too but I wanted the varied life experiences of living and working abroad as well since my parents were able to move with me.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly, if you are someone who can get into US med schools as a foreigner, then you probably would have easily gotten into residencies locally. Its extremely difficult to get into med school in the states as a foreigner from what I have heard. Know of people who didn't even get a single interview...

The US residency route (either as an IMG or foreign US MD grad) is no easier than we have it locally... in fact may be even more arduous. But the pay is better after all the training. In residency i would say we have better pay and welfare than US residents.

You mix up Canada CaRMS with US residency.

US is much easier for foreigners and IMGs.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You mix up Canada CaRMS with US residency.

US is much easier for foreigners and IMGs.

look at NRMP match data and US T10 MD foreign student acceptance rate before u embarass urself again

Originally Posted by Unregistered

look at NRMP match data and US T10 MD foreign student acceptance rate before u embarass urself again

I checked

In the US, foreign IMGs have a match rate of around 58.1%, while in Canada IMGs have a match rate of around 33.2%.

US is easier for IMGs than Canada.

In Canada, medical residency applicants must be Canadian citizens or permanent residents. IMGs must first immigrate to Canada, a process that takes 1 to 5 years, before they are eligible to apply to Canadian residency programs. IMGs must also pass the Medical Council of Canada’s National Assessment Exam and the MCC Qualifying Exam part 1, prior to the medical residency match application process.

If you are a Canadian medical school graduate without Canadian citizenship or permanent residency, you will be considered an IMG and will not be able to participate in the Canadian residency match. You can, however, apply to residency programs in the US.

NRMP does not bother if you are foreigner or US resident.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I checked

In the US, foreign IMGs have a match rate of around 58.1%, while in Canada IMGs have a match rate of around 33.2%.

US is easier for IMGs than Canada.

In Canada, medical residency applicants must be Canadian citizens or permanent residents. IMGs must first immigrate to Canada, a process that takes 1 to 5 years, before they are eligible to apply to Canadian residency programs. IMGs must also pass the Medical Council of Canada’s National Assessment Exam and the MCC Qualifying Exam part 1, prior to the medical residency match application process.

If you are a Canadian medical school graduate without Canadian citizenship or permanent residency, you will be considered an IMG and will not be able to participate in the Canadian residency match. You can, however, apply to residency programs in the US.

NRMP does not bother if you are foreigner or US resident.

Yea but ur argument is stupid. Your argument is based on arbitrary political factors rather than the skill of the doctor itself

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yea but ur argument is stupid. Your argument is based on arbitrary political factors rather than the skill of the doctor itself

That's not my "argument". Not trying to argue with you.

Just stating what the stats say. The part about the Canada requiring one to be a resident of Canada is not even what shows up in discussions among IMG PRs in Canada.

They are eligible to apply for both NRMP and CaRMS and they too find it easier to get interviews and match through the US side. Hence some Canadian IMGs will move to USA.

The Canadian Resident Matching Service (CaRMS) administers the residency Match in Canada. NRMP has an agreement with CaRMS that permits applicants to participate in both the Canadian and U.S. Matches while preventing them from matching in both countries.

s://.aucmed.edu/media/8526/ospd-canadian-student-residency-2022

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That's not my "argument". Not trying to argue with you.

Just stating what the stats say. The part about the Canada requiring one to be a resident of Canada is not even what shows up in discussions among IMG PRs in Canada.

They are eligible to apply for both NRMP and CaRMS and they too find it easier to get interviews and match through the US side. Hence some Canadian IMGs will move to USA.

The Canadian Resident Matching Service (CaRMS) administers the residency Match in Canada. NRMP has an agreement with CaRMS that permits applicants to participate in both the Canadian and U.S. Matches while preventing them from matching in both countries.

s://.aucmed.edu/media/8526/ospd-canadian-student-residency-2022

Yea but go look at US T10 Med school non US citizen/non green card holder admission rates

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yea but go look at US T10 Med school non US citizen/non green card holder admission rates

You are spouting nonsense. With the exception of competitive residencies like ortho, derm, surg etc, most programs are within reach for IMGs.

I myself am a Singapore who went to a third tier med school (SGU in the Caribbean) and I managed to match into Tier 1 Psych program at Emory. Most of my classmates also matched into residency of their choice, although many went into FM/IM/Peds..