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Old 30-01-2024, 12:23 AM
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stay where u are, quitter
So mean. Glad I quit man. Not just OPS but Singapore! I read all the grouse about pathetic 200-250k salary I really pity you guys man.

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Old 30-01-2024, 07:23 AM
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exactly! by now many has received the letters of revision.
so is global increase for senior ops and hosp docs.

specifics wait for next mth.
the reason why there was a delay thus far is ops ac already earn more than hosp ac.
so to just increase ops pay doesnt make sense, need a global increment to everybody,
Huat ah. Hopefully this forum can finally move on from this topic

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Old 30-01-2024, 06:58 PM
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M5 from YLL. MBBS coming soon in less than a month, and feeling v stressed.

And having the last 70+ pages of this forum thread, I wonder what I wanna do in the future. All it seems that many OPS patients sound like complete **** and entitled, which is pretty consistent with what I rmb seeing during my M3 FM posting.

Can't say with certainty what I wanna do. Def not a Dean's lister-calibre student. Just an average student.

Should I do GP? Aesthetics? OPS? I've also heard of drs branching out to work as advisors in insurance companies, and as management consultants. Even saw a guy on LinkedIn who become a personal trainer lol. Or should I pursue specialty training instead? One thing I know I'm not keen on is GS hahahaha

What I can say is that I'm keen on having good working hours (without night calls), and a nice salary.

Don't really care about patients in the sense that I feel an 'overwhelming' and 'altruistic' passion to help/serve. To me, medicine is overhyped as sth which is a 'calling'. The reality is that it's a job. Goal is to wanna make money.

Medicine being a 'calling' and "not doing it for the money" is a way the top-level staff and administrators gaslight drs into being compensated less than they deserve IMO.

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Old 30-01-2024, 07:03 PM
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^ oh yeah, and just to add to above,

can anyone advise what the maternity leave arrangement is like if I wanna work as a GP in one of the big chains vs OPS? Def think it's relevant if I wanna have kids in the future (on the fence though).
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^ oh yeah, and just to add to above,

can anyone advise what the maternity leave arrangement is like if I wanna work as a GP in one of the big chains vs OPS? Def think it's relevant if I wanna have kids in the future (on the fence though).
I recommend reading this blog though.
s://chasingfaithandlove.com/author/faithisaunicorn/

Shares a good insight into junior Dr life and someone who broke bond and pivot in her career.
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Old 30-01-2024, 07:53 PM
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M5 from YLL. MBBS coming soon in less than a month, and feeling v stressed.

And having the last 70+ pages of this forum thread, I wonder what I wanna do in the future. All it seems that many OPS patients sound like complete **** and entitled, which is pretty consistent with what I rmb seeing during my M3 FM posting.

Can't say with certainty what I wanna do. Def not a Dean's lister-calibre student. Just an average student.

Should I do GP? Aesthetics? OPS? I've also heard of drs branching out to work as advisors in insurance companies, and as management consultants. Even saw a guy on LinkedIn who become a personal trainer lol. Or should I pursue specialty training instead? One thing I know I'm not keen on is GS hahahaha

What I can say is that I'm keen on having good working hours (without night calls), and a nice salary.

Don't really care about patients in the sense that I feel an 'overwhelming' and 'altruistic' passion to help/serve. To me, medicine is overhyped as sth which is a 'calling'. The reality is that it's a job. Goal is to wanna make money.

Medicine being a 'calling' and "not doing it for the money" is a way the top-level staff and administrators gaslight drs into being compensated less than they deserve IMO.

I was an ops fp who left for private 5 years ago pre covid after completing residency/mmed.
Tbh, there are pros and cons to public and private, the subtle naunces are hard to explain in this forum and has to be individualized.

But what I would suggest is complete mbbs and housemanship, and slowly take your time to explore.

Most importantly have an interest outside of medicine.

I agree with your point that all these altruism are idealistic (but at least do no harm la). For many of us, medicine can be a decent paying job to fund our interests and "calling in life" elsewhere.

I have a colleague who does locum almost every night to get more money to set up her business in pets back in Malaysia (she is an major dog lover, and that is her "calling").

Medicine and being a doctor can just be a job, that we can love or hate, but regardless, we must do it well because of the stakes (pt life) involved.
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I recommend reading this blog though.
s://chasingfaithandlove.com/author/faithisaunicorn/

Shares a good insight into junior Dr life and someone who broke bond and pivot in her career.
This one beri junior
If not for papa mama money don’t think she can make it

But her parents are gp

Right now don’t understand her clinic
Do what longevity medicine?
Longevity medicine is beri hard one

Dude anybody can tell you to live long and healthy


Take whole grains, eat legumes, eat oily fish, lots of fruits and vegetables
Reduce red meat. No added sugars.
Sleep well


Exercise more, especially resistance training
Max sure vo2 max more than 50ml per kg per min. (Chim way of saying way 2.4km less than 10min)

But ask ur patients to pay for this is like quite difficult.
Advice is easy, real work is hard

Unless you organise boot camp. Whip them if they don’t run.

All the longevity supplement
Akg, revestarol, metformin I tried also no use.

Aesthetics definitely can earn more
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M5 from YLL. MBBS coming soon in less than a month, and feeling v stressed.

And having the last 70+ pages of this forum thread, I wonder what I wanna do in the future. All it seems that many OPS patients sound like complete **** and entitled, which is pretty consistent with what I rmb seeing during my M3 FM posting.

Can't say with certainty what I wanna do. Def not a Dean's lister-calibre student. Just an average student.

Should I do GP? Aesthetics? OPS? I've also heard of drs branching out to work as advisors in insurance companies, and as management consultants. Even saw a guy on LinkedIn who become a personal trainer lol. Or should I pursue specialty training instead? One thing I know I'm not keen on is GS hahahaha

What I can say is that I'm keen on having good working hours (without night calls), and a nice salary.

Don't really care about patients in the sense that I feel an 'overwhelming' and 'altruistic' passion to help/serve. To me, medicine is overhyped as sth which is a 'calling'. The reality is that it's a job. Goal is to wanna make money.

Medicine being a 'calling' and "not doing it for the money" is a way the top-level staff and administrators gaslight drs into being compensated less than they deserve IMO.

I believe there is a market for aesthetics
U guy right?

Can break bond after NS.
Ns period will locum a lot
Then with the money u can break bond and be aesthetics
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This one beri junior
If not for papa mama money don’t think she can make it

But her parents are gp

Right now don’t understand her clinic
Do what longevity medicine?
Longevity medicine is beri hard one

Dude anybody can tell you to live long and healthy


Take whole grains, eat legumes, eat oily fish, lots of fruits and vegetables
Reduce red meat. No added sugars.
Sleep well


Exercise more, especially resistance training
Max sure vo2 max more than 50ml per kg per min. (Chim way of saying way 2.4km less than 10min)

But ask ur patients to pay for this is like quite difficult.
Advice is easy, real work is hard

Unless you organise boot camp. Whip them if they don’t run.

All the longevity supplement
Akg, revestarol, metformin I tried also no use.

Aesthetics definitely can earn more
I also read her blog. I am more impressed by her guts/bravery to take an alternative path in Singapore, rather than the actual work that she does. (I feel that too many people, esp the older generation, including my parents and even myself I would admit) have the inertia to change or deviate from the norm.

When I encounter something I don't enjoy (e.g hardship postings), the instinct in me is to tough it out, and have that "people have gone through this and can survive, so can I" mentality, even though it's something that I don't like/enjoy.
- end result, I wasted 5 years as a mo under mohh lo before leaving after my bond ends. (Some good posting, some completely irrelevant hardship postings like ctvs which have no relevance to fm).
- I had an offer from a group when I was pgy5 to pay out the remainder of my bond (1 year left? but I still didn't have the "guts" to break bond. (As I felt that wasn't a good or normal thing to do)

Sometimes the bravery to deviate from the society norms is something that is heavily lacking in sg and esp the medical fraternity. Sure, her rich parents helped, but I can tell you even given the money, not all junior doctors will have the guts to choose the path that she did.
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This one beri junior
If not for papa mama money don’t think she can make it

But her parents are gp

Right now don’t understand her clinic
Do what longevity medicine?
Longevity medicine is beri hard one
This 废物.
Write one long article about breaking bond.
Family not rich break what bond.
I don't even trust this kind of post houseman ship mo to treat my urti.
Still do longevity medicine?
Priest la.
This sort can't even understand a research paper


Go see the proper longevity clinic at AH
Run by specialist.
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