How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

please advise on how to get into aesthetic medicine

Take a few weekend courses and get your COCs. Find a smaller/new aesthetic clinic that is willing to take in people with little or no experience. Don’t expect much when you are joining with no experience. Probably looking at around $9000/month for new hires with no experience. Your goal is to accumulate experience, before applying to a bigger chain.

To the person who said that the increase is in can share more pls for poly pay review ? Am left in a limbo to quit or not , boss said coming soon 1 -2month ago , till now nth

Originally Posted by Unregistered

To the person who said that the increase is in can share more pls for poly pay review ? Am left in a limbo to quit or not , boss said coming soon 1 -2month ago , till now nth

Patience.

Will come in 2024 Feb
Just stay first and get ur 2023 dec bonus

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Patience.

Will come in 2024 Feb
Just stay first and get ur 2023 dec bonus

Which cluster is this.
Just spoken to my ops HR, they starting job offers for us R4. I was quoted 8.6/mth (before additional allowance and bonus etc) if we pass mmed
But essentially it's the same deal as our seniors 3 years ago (so where is the increment?)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Which cluster is this.
Just spoken to my ops HR, they starting job offers for us R4. I was quoted 8.6/mth (before additional allowance and bonus etc) if we pass mmed
But essentially it's the same deal as our seniors 3 years ago (so where is the increment?)

Again. Patience
Ur boss can only quote current contract

Just stay in system
Do well. Pass ur mmed
You will be rewarded greatly

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Which cluster is this.
Just spoken to my ops HR, they starting job offers for us R4. I was quoted 8.6/mth (before additional allowance and bonus etc) if we pass mmed
But essentially it's the same deal as our seniors 3 years ago (so where is the increment?)

got la. the 3 clusters already aligned and ratified. Everyone morale v low so they no choice. MOH no money so delay to Sep while they get the perm sec to sign off the release. Will delay again or not dunno la...

but don't hope too much. FPs are a cheap solution to a very expensive ageing health problem. Pay you as much as specialist then you become another cost problem also.

Give u 10 minutes per patient need u to look after their 5 to 10 problems and even preventive health. Now throw in healthier SG some more as if we very eng. Bloody hell, they even sneak in a weight loss discussion hard stop for obese patient. FP in ops really bao ka liao.

u want to stay in OPS then u must aim for head / HQ work / research or education liao. You want to be a responsible clinical FP just see patient and go home daily u will kenna squeezed -> day in day out see 40-50 patient, maybe 15 complicated and 2 or 3 really irritating one u will get burn out and no light at the end of the tunnel one.


Better leave early for private practice la.
mainly acute conditions and sell MC -> dont need a lot of brains. Just need to smile nicely and be reassuring.
5-10 simple chronic a day. HTN , HLD or simple DM only nia.
sell health screening packages
do some chemical peels or laser for added commission
You will see more patient than OPS but no stress ones.
patient generally nice -> strange but true. Private GP patient pay more but they less demanding. OPS a lot of entitled patient -> and they are not your relatively worse off heart landers but usually those with education and living in landed property coming in to take advantage of the system.
really FON and TLC ++.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

got la. the 3 clusters already aligned and ratified. Everyone morale v low so they no choice. MOH no money so delay to Sep while they get the perm sec to sign off the release. Will delay again or not dunno la...

but don't hope too much. FPs are a cheap solution to a very expensive ageing health problem. Pay you as much as specialist then you become another cost problem also.

Give u 10 minutes per patient need u to look after their 5 to 10 problems and even preventive health. Now throw in healthier SG some more as if we very eng. Bloody hell, they even sneak in a weight loss discussion hard stop for obese patient. FP in ops really bao ka liao.

u want to stay in OPS then u must aim for head / HQ work / research or education liao. You want to be a responsible clinical FP just see patient and go home daily u will kenna squeezed -> day in day out see 40-50 patient, maybe 15 complicated and 2 or 3 really irritating one u will get burn out and no light at the end of the tunnel one.


Better leave early for private practice la.
mainly acute conditions and sell MC -> dont need a lot of brains. Just need to smile nicely and be reassuring.
5-10 simple chronic a day. HTN , HLD or simple DM only nia.
sell health screening packages
do some chemical peels or laser for added commission
You will see more patient than OPS but no stress ones.
patient generally nice -> strange but true. Private GP patient pay more but they less demanding. OPS a lot of entitled patient -> and they are not your relatively worse off heart landers but usually those with education and living in landed property coming in to take advantage of the system.
really FON and TLC ++.

Agree with what you say. The weight loss discussion hardstop suggest maybe we are from the same cluster lol. Also got a lot of admin stuff in teamlet care like recruit into this program, that program (e.g ptec) also a lot of admin stuff like results vetting for the whole clinic etc.. can be quite Sian sometimes.


My only concern is if the GP groups will remain profitable and pay well once the healthier sg formulary rules kick in (i.e PT pay same for meds at GP as per ops pricing).
But definitely looking to leave ops after mmed this year for a simpler life. (Hopefully can include 1-2 days of teleconsult into my hours, then can whh)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agree with what you say. The weight loss discussion hardstop suggest maybe we are from the same cluster lol. Also got a lot of admin stuff in teamlet care like recruit into this program, that program (e.g ptec) also a lot of admin stuff like results vetting for the whole clinic etc.. can be quite Sian sometimes.


My only concern is if the GP groups will remain profitable and pay well once the healthier sg formulary rules kick in (i.e PT pay same for meds at GP as per ops pricing).
But definitely looking to leave ops after mmed this year for a simpler life. (Hopefully can include 1-2 days of teleconsult into my hours, then can whh)

Agree with you guys that Primary Care is getting to be too much for too little. It is partly our own fault trying to push Primary Care to be important and able to cover everything. Geh khiang. Not to mention more and more patients like to argue and say they read on internet.....dowan this dowan that.....

Sounds like in SG there aren't many options outside of Primary Care for GPs/FPs.

Glad I managed to find something overseas. Family Medicine is too stressful and difficult and all for a measly flat consult fee no matter how well or poorly you did as a doctor.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agree with you guys that Primary Care is getting to be too much for too little. It is partly our own fault trying to push Primary Care to be important and able to cover everything. Geh khiang. Not to mention more and more patients like to argue and say they read on internet.....dowan this dowan that.....

Sounds like in SG there aren't many options outside of Primary Care for GPs/FPs.

Glad I managed to find something overseas. Family Medicine is too stressful and difficult and all for a measly flat consult fee no matter how well or poorly you did as a doctor.

How to convince public to lose when some docs bmi is >23.5

I think ops need to tie bonus to bmi.
Bmi 23.6 to 25.0 minus 1 month
Bmi 25.1 to 27.0 minus 2 month
Bmi 27.1 to 30.0 minus 3 month


Bmi>30.0 compulsory taf club during recess
I.e during lunch time continue to see patient
No lunch break

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How to convince public to lose when some docs bmi is >23.5

I think ops need to tie bonus to bmi.
Bmi 23.6 to 25.0 minus 1 month
Bmi 25.1 to 27.0 minus 2 month
Bmi 27.1 to 30.0 minus 3 month


Bmi>30.0 compulsory taf club during recess
I.e during lunch time continue to see patient
No lunch break

LOL!
Yeah that's why I say Primary Care in SG is dead.
Specialize. If you can't then do aesthetics or something else.
Do Primary Care they demand you to be like a some model human being perfect, read minds, can make everyone happy, cure everything. And pay you low consult fees.