How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

End of the day
It's the training.
1st time see complex elderly sure sian.
So many issues, complain this complain that
MO or gdfm don't train u for this.
They do sure overwhelmed and hence feel stress plus plus
Got someone guide u how to dissect the issue and prioritise and work down ok one

Anyway not every case complex.
I say generally 50 percent well chronic.
V fast one.
30 percent 1 or 2 poorly controlled
Counsel a bit. Got energy counsel more. End of the week like today, aiyah u want die earlier go die earlier la.
Of the remaing 20 percent maybe only 5 to 10 percent truly complex.
Different cluster handle different.
Some clinic got complex care clinic
Some got FP clinic
Some got pple doing fellowship peddle the case to them

Acute is anything goes
I hate those multiple issues one.
I can be enthu for 2 or even 3 problems.
The moment u start to bring up tummy pain from 5 years ago...my tone be become very hostile liao

I wish one fine day we means test everyone who come polyclinic
The rich and educated ones are the worse.
Come and abuse the system wanting referral for everything.
Friend did threadmill privately. He come say he want .
I chk no symptoms and he ran 8km everyother day no symptoms cannot send.
Suddenly oh..I got chest pain before.
Bloody faker.
One retired banker living in a 8 million landed ask me for vitamin c because cheaper.

Their subsidy level should be based on means testing.

I think now they are starting to means test already isn't it?

I read some pamphlets that talked about means testing.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Aiyah go away la sore GP.
Whatever rate I say u just gonna lol and claim otherwise.
U happy can liao.
I happy can liao.

I am R3 and recently had career talk by polyclinic HR.
Pay is around 200-220k/year once you hit AC which is around 3-4 years post mmed. (May be longer as more and more residents exit)

This is the annual package inclusive of all bonus (AWS, performance bonus, service component, quality component, and junior FP award- 50k for 3 years), idea is that once junior FP award- ends, you will get the pay increment as you promote to AC.
- just listing to prove that I am not a troll.

I know most chain groups are offering 15-16k for 44hr/week contract (not 60hr), with average of ard 1 month bonus.(depending on your performance of course). I know as I am asking ard coz I am considering leaving in July once the programme ends.

I guess that's work up to ard 200k as well? (Some allow you to squeeze your hrs, i.e you can work 4 long days, and get 3 days off, instead of the non negotiable 5.5 days in ops- abeit you get alternative sat off)

I was told that ops constantly revise so that mmeder can get pay comparable to most 44hr/week gp outside, to avoid losing people.
Unfortunately, there will always be groups who would pay more, and they are unable to match the pay of aesthetics sadly.

At the end of the day, it's not just about retaining mmeders, its about encouraging more juniors and gdfm people to do mmed as well. (They will only do if the money is good I guess)

And the problem with public is that your career and hence pay is VERY dependent on qualifications (i.e mmed and subsequently fellowship), whereas in private, they generally pay you based on hrs you can work, and revenue you can generate. (Which I guess is better if you really have no confidence in your ability to pass mmed- like me sadly)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

End of the day
It's the training.
1st time see complex elderly sure sian.
So many issues, complain this complain that
MO or gdfm don't train u for this.
They do sure overwhelmed and hence feel stress plus plus
Got someone guide u how to dissect the issue and prioritise and work down ok one

Anyway not every case complex.
I say generally 50 percent well chronic.
V fast one.
30 percent 1 or 2 poorly controlled
Counsel a bit. Got energy counsel more. End of the week like today, aiyah u want die earlier go die earlier la.
Of the remaing 20 percent maybe only 5 to 10 percent truly complex.
Different cluster handle different.
Some clinic got complex care clinic
Some got FP clinic
Some got pple doing fellowship peddle the case to them

Acute is anything goes
I hate those multiple issues one.
I can be enthu for 2 or even 3 problems.
The moment u start to bring up tummy pain from 5 years ago...my tone be become very hostile liao

I wish one fine day we means test everyone who come polyclinic
The rich and educated ones are the worse.
Come and abuse the system wanting referral for everything.
Friend did threadmill privately. He come say he want .
I chk no symptoms and he ran 8km everyother day no symptoms cannot send.
Suddenly oh..I got chest pain before.
Bloody faker.
One retired banker living in a 8 million landed ask me for vitamin c because cheaper.

Their subsidy level should be based on means testing.

I agree with you 100% that training really matters and a well trained fp can see comples chronics without difficulty. However, one can't denies that seeing urti/ge is always easier than seeing chronics (even for well trained fps)
- this is coming from someone who had done both polyclinic and gp posting as part of my training programme. Lol.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am R3 and recently had career talk by polyclinic HR.
Pay is around 200-220k/year once you hit AC which is around 3-4 years post mmed. (May be longer as more and more residents exit)

This is the annual package inclusive of all bonus (AWS, performance bonus, service component, quality component, and junior FP award- 50k for 3 years), idea is that once junior FP award- ends, you will get the pay increment as you promote to AC.
- just listing to prove that I am not a troll.

I know most chain groups are offering 15-16k for 44hr/week contract (not 60hr), with average of ard 1 month bonus.(depending on your performance of course). I know as I am asking ard coz I am considering leaving in July once the programme ends.

I guess that's work up to ard 200k as well? (Some allow you to squeeze your hrs, i.e you can work 4 long days, and get 3 days off, instead of the non negotiable 5.5 days in ops- abeit you get alternative sat off)

I was told that ops constantly revise so that mmeder can get pay comparable to most 44hr/week gp outside, to avoid losing people.
Unfortunately, there will always be groups who would pay more, and they are unable to match the pay of aesthetics sadly.

At the end of the day, it's not just about retaining mmeders, its about encouraging more juniors and gdfm people to do mmed as well. (They will only do if the money is good I guess)

And the problem with public is that your career and hence pay is VERY dependent on qualifications (i.e mmed and subsequently fellowship), whereas in private, they generally pay you based on hrs you can work, and revenue you can generate. (Which I guess is better if you really have no confidence in your ability to pass mmed- like me sadly)

dont worry mmed not hard one. your hr got tell you how much before AC? haha.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

dont worry mmed not hard one. your hr got tell you how much before AC? haha.

Ah, this is the sore GP.
He doesn't know m.meder salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am R3 and recently had career talk by polyclinic HR.
Pay is around 200-220k/year once you hit AC which is around 3-4 years post mmed. (May be longer as more and more residents exit)

This is the annual package inclusive of all bonus (AWS, performance bonus, service component, quality component, and junior FP award- 50k for 3 years), idea is that once junior FP award- ends, you will get the pay increment as you promote to AC.
- just listing to prove that I am not a troll.

I know most chain groups are offering 15-16k for 44hr/week contract (not 60hr), with average of ard 1 month bonus.(depending on your performance of course). I know as I am asking ard coz I am considering leaving in July once the programme ends.

I guess that's work up to ard 200k as well? (Some allow you to squeeze your hrs, i.e you can work 4 long days, and get 3 days off, instead of the non negotiable 5.5 days in ops- abeit you get alternative sat off)

I was told that ops constantly revise so that mmeder can get pay comparable to most 44hr/week gp outside, to avoid losing people.
Unfortunately, there will always be groups who would pay more, and they are unable to match the pay of aesthetics sadly.

At the end of the day, it's not just about retaining mmeders, its about encouraging more juniors and gdfm people to do mmed as well. (They will only do if the money is good I guess)

And the problem with public is that your career and hence pay is VERY dependent on qualifications (i.e mmed and subsequently fellowship), whereas in private, they generally pay you based on hrs you can work, and revenue you can generate. (Which I guess is better if you really have no confidence in your ability to pass mmed- like me sadly)

Is passing mmed harder or is generating high revenue to make a clinic highly profitable harder?

I put my bet on the former being EASIER.

You need different skill sets. But those who think it is so easy to do well as a pte GP (revenue and profit wise) you better think twice.

For most docs all their lives they have been training to take and pass exams. Not on sales, PR skills, traversing the gray areas to service customers, looking at financial statements, accounting strategies, business strategies, advertising, marketing, promotion, soft skills etc

Most doctors are better suited for MMed and OPS career paths.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ah, this is the sore GP.
He doesn't know m.meder salary

What is the MMeder salary before AC?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What is the MMeder salary before AC?

Bet no one will tell you.
need to hide their insecurities

I would be wary of signing up with small private GP chains offering S$15k or more for 44 hr work week. I signed up with one such chain as an anchor Dr who didn't pay me for the hrs worked but instead fired me when I wanted to take MC.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I would be wary of signing up with small private GP chains offering S$15k or more for 44 hr work week. I signed up with one such chain as an anchor Dr who didn't pay me for the hrs worked but instead fired me when I wanted to take MC.

Pls acronym and shame for benefit of the med community