How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Heard aesthetics rake in millions

Yes. I employ ten aesthetic doc.
They help me do botox.

6min session $500.
So one 1hr = $5000
So one day = $50,000
And i got ten doc = $500,000

I operate 365 days
One year my turnover is 180million
I give each of my aesthetic 1-2 peanut. ($600k)

So my total labour cost is 6million.

I take home $174 million every year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes. I employ ten aesthetic doc.
They help me do botox.

6min session $500.
So one 1hr = $5000
So one day = $50,000
And i got ten doc = $500,000

I operate 365 days
One year my turnover is 180million
I give each of my aesthetic 1-2 peanut. ($600k)

So my total labour cost is 6million.

I take home $174 million every year.

Wow! Incredible! Amazing!

6min per patient. So 10 patients per hour per Dr. 10 Drs. So 100 patients an hour. 10 hours a day. 1000 patients a day. 365 days. 365,000 patients a year.

That's a lot of patients who can afford to pay $500 for 6 min. Only in Singapore.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

huh? Since when is it hard to get into GP training in Australia? No one fails to get into GP training eventually, its just how rural u are willingly to go.
It has only become relatively harder compared to previous years due to medical student tsunami, but worldwide, FM training has always been the easiest to get into relative to other specialties. psy and pathology hold fascination for some people only, do it only if u want to do it.

Dun kid yourself.

Also, since when is failure rate 50-60%?
s://1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/racgp/kfp-2020-2-public-exam-report-now-available
81% pass on their first try.

Sg side, except for 2020 exam which was markly different due to Covid, passing rate for each exam is usually 50% of the people who made it to the clinicals. Thats about 40% of the cohort fyi. Its a high stake exam for most of us as the salary doubles after that.

FM is always the poorer cousin to the medical specialties. Don't kid yourself that FM in canada or australia or UK do a lot.

Salary more? I dun think so lei. Remember, in australia, GP are self employed. They usually do shared billing at 60-70% and need to work quite hard to make 200K before tax. While an equivalent FP in singapore employed in what is essentially an iron rice bowl job with insurance, CME, annual leave etc all accounted for makes a bit more after the lower tax in Sg.

so, again dont kid yourself.

Can I ask if the passing rate for mmed last year higher or lower in view of the covid restrictions? (I heard that they couldn't really get real patients due to covid)

[QUOTE=Unregistered;189072]Can I ask if the passing rate for mmed last year higher or lower in view of the covid restrictions? (I heard that they couldn't really get real patients due to covid)[/QUOTE

I heard almost 100 percent.

Too many doctors

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask if the passing rate for mmed last year higher or lower in view of the covid restrictions? (I heard that they couldn't really get real patients due to covid)

lol, deepavali , so many trolls invaded this space

its a higher % passing last year. the 2 pure physicial examination removed cos cannot close contact but they do have some real patients.
trust me when i say real patient easier....sp can be trained for complicated scenarios ( complicated social background, difficult personality, refusal , ethics stuff etc) but real patient you can't. Furthermore, as they need to find 15-25 patient with the same conditions, reality is you not gonna get MRCP level type of patient with liver cirrhosis, weird type of strokes, weird cardiac murmurs, cerebral palsy etc, so its down to your menopasual lady, copd, asthma, poor DM control , obesity etc, which is our bread and butter anyway.

last year highest pass rate in history, almost 80%. This year i think back to normal liao, only 70 plus made it to clinicals. Quality of candidates seem to be better year by year though. Maybe design harder stations for next year.

anyway, for those taking it this year, halfway through liao. jiayou!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask if the passing rate for mmed last year higher or lower in view of the covid restrictions? (I heard that they couldn't really get real patients due to covid)

Mmed (fm) pass rate is uber high lah.

At least 80%.
Mmed standard drop alr.
Got one year songhealth 50% (2017). coz songhealth work them hard.
Less tutorials
Then after a while college decide to lower standard a bit.

Which brings to the point songhealth fm worked u the hardest.
But songhealth dont offer much prep for exams

The other two si work u less, u get less exposure but more support for exams
Mmed and gdfm generally pass rate quite good.

But i agree fcfps pass rate lower.
But of course coz the seniors dont want so many fellows so try to obstruct ur progression to fellow by failing ppl.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Mmed (fm) pass rate is uber high lah.

At least 80%.
Mmed standard drop alr.
Got one year songhealth 50% (2017). coz songhealth work them hard.
Less tutorials
Then after a while college decide to lower standard a bit.

Which brings to the point songhealth fm worked u the hardest.
But songhealth dont offer much prep for exams

The other two si work u less, u get less exposure but more support for exams
Mmed and gdfm generally pass rate quite good.

But i agree fcfps pass rate lower.
But of course coz the seniors dont want so many fellows so try to obstruct ur progression to fellow by failing ppl.

anyhow say. mcq already 20 percent fail. it's bell curved there.
straight away each cohort only 80 percent go to clinical. usually colleague program one because lack ite, so mcq don't do so well.
of the those that go clinical, usually 40 to 60 percent pass.
80 percent is only last year because of COVID cos more time and the station was crafted to minise contact

u go colleague annual report see, always publish name of m.med pass. each new batch about 100 because mohh only have budget for so many trainees, from there u can calculate cohort passing rate already.

fcfp is different story. very painful cos need fulfill 5 domains, so always got to work condistenly over the 2 years unlike m.med can chiong last year. research painful , ebm need to practice and practice and v hard to followup on complex cases for polyclinic doctor ( in this respect the community hospital one easier cos patient in hospital for weeks ma..lots of time to work thru problems). comm house fellow usually pass one.

Just wondering does having a mmed (fm) means confirm will get job at ops. For example, if you pass your mmed and go private, but after 5-10 years bored of private want to come back, will they take you as long as you have mmed even though it was passed 10 years ago? (I mean people may want to locum ++ during their younger years but once reach 40+, just want 8-5 job)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just wondering does having a mmed (fm) means confirm will get job at ops. For example, if you pass your mmed and go private, but after 5-10 years bored of private want to come back, will they take you as long as you have mmed even though it was passed 10 years ago? (I mean people may want to locum ++ during their younger years but once reach 40+, just want 8-5 job)

The only person who can tell you whether they will hire you 10 years from now is God almighty.
Primary care scene is evolving rapidly and MMed-ers are being churned out every year.

Who knows what will happen?
Likely over time MBBS holders will not be able to prac independently without minimum GDFM.
And maybe 20 years later GDFM will be phased out, need minimum MMed to prac independently outside.
Likely within next 1-2 years, fellows will be recognized as FM specialists as well.

OPS already gonna be fully staffed by MMed-ers gradually.
Need to wait for all the old time RPs / GDFM holders to retire over the next 10-20 years and they will all be replaced by the hordes of MMed-ers

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Dk how bad your condition is.
Why don’t u see a dermatologist at skin center instead of aesthetic doctors who obviously have an interest in ripping you off.

I did visit the skin center twice. Always prescribed me the same meds and perhaps different creams. Its also not easy to get appt at skin center again and again once the period lapses.

The condition is rather persistent so I decided to go private. But the med he prescribed is exactly the same as what the NSC did.. the only difference is that now we are undergoing lasers and whatnot.

So the question is still if these lasers work? Or is the effect due to the medication but attributed to the lasers?