How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am really sick of patient facing work. Am now in polyclinic , is there any admin job for doctors and how to apply or where to find

search on job portals.
pharma companies hire MSLs starting salary about $7k with transport allowance
private hospitals do hire some managers but starting salary prolly around there as well
insurance companies have been hiring as well with higher starting salaries - prolly somewhere in between admin and clinical pay

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I agree with you that life overseas definitely better. However now given the covid situation, and the fact that SG post grad qualifications are largely useless overseas, I dont have the option to move (even though I graduate from UK); hence have to find next best solution.
I have no interest in QI, research or admin work, hence I figured that only option for me is GP land (hence I chose FM residency- right/wrong decision debatable i guess). If burnout from clinical work, then take a few days off/week PRN. Locum more flexibility but of course pay less if you work less. For me, taking on more teaching/research work to reduce clinical load is not viable


I am not sure about senior consultant working 30plus hours a week; maybe for certain specialties (e.g GM). I just completed my GS, ortho and IM postings (for which I did GM, neuro and gastro)
- I can safely say that most of the cons (even in GM) that I work with are more stressed than my Preceptors in OPS (most of my preceptors are consultant in FM- i.e completed fellowship)/friends in GP land
- When I was in GS/ortho, my consultant starts at 7am (rounding) and finished after 9pm daily. (how I know- cause he always ask me to help him to medical report after clinic/OT, I will usually finish by 8-9pm, and he is still there doing his research work with his assistant); I guess he is well paid, but he definitely works more than 30 plus hrs/week
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Gastro/neuro/GM not so bad, but I often see the consultants staying till 6-7pm as well (i often go to the admin block, where all the consultant offices are, to do some residency admin work/study as there are free computers and they are far away from the ward Lol)

Which cluster u in? Admin block, singhealth ah?
Fyi hor, if Ur UK grad from some institution u can actually get GMc registration during Ur internship year in sg( eg imperial one can, I sign off my ho one few years back ), and with GMC recognition Ur internship is actually recognised in Australia.

U sure or not? Consultant where got work so hard. He trying to get professorship ah or genuinely interested in research. My orthopedic con work 5 day a week, operate 2 days. Never rounds, even post call take got a junior ac to tank for him. The only time he pop up was when I suspect nec fas, WhatsApp him a pic then he show up with reg and go ot..
GM con even pro, some Cambridge grad, 9am rock up with coffebean coffee in one hand and a LV tote bag in the other. Stand there listen to story and goes ok, agree with plan next...ok, next. Dreams life lei. The reg totally rolled her eyes though..haha. actually the most siong one is GM and it's not the medicine but sorting out the patient life. Siong for junior . Other sub spec one all quite ok.

I preceptor to residents now lei. Some resident really not so good have to spend a lot of effort. I don't want them to kill patients man. Can tell me bp target 120 /80 for a 80 year old. Some don't even know DX criteria for dm. See Liao pengz. Pos m.med where got chill life. Many arrows come Ur way. I dun go home after clinic ends but stay to do many stuff. Ur preceptors likely v senior liao so is heck care right. Comparatively their peers in hospital of same seniority is God like status already.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Which cluster u in? Admin block, singhealth ah?
Fyi hor, if Ur UK grad from some institution u can actually get GMc registration during Ur internship year in sg( eg imperial one can, I sign off my ho one few years back ), and with GMC recognition Ur internship is actually recognised in Australia.

U sure or not? Consultant where got work so hard. He trying to get professorship ah or genuinely interested in research. My orthopedic con work 5 day a week, operate 2 days. Never rounds, even post call take got a junior ac to tank for him. The only time he pop up was when I suspect nec fas, WhatsApp him a pic then he show up with reg and go ot..
GM con even pro, some Cambridge grad, 9am rock up with coffebean coffee in one hand and a LV tote bag in the other. Stand there listen to story and goes ok, agree with plan next...ok, next. Dreams life lei. The reg totally rolled her eyes though..haha. actually the most siong one is GM and it's not the medicine but sorting out the patient life. Siong for junior . Other sub spec one all quite ok.

I preceptor to residents now lei. Some resident really not so good have to spend a lot of effort. I don't want them to kill patients man. Can tell me bp target 120 /80 for a 80 year old. Some don't even know DX criteria for dm. See Liao pengz. Pos m.med where got chill life. Many arrows come Ur way. I dun go home after clinic ends but stay to do many stuff. Ur preceptors likely v senior liao so is heck care right. Comparatively their peers in hospital of same seniority is God like status already.

Aiya guys just fast fast finish bonds and then work in aesthetic clinics or lecturing or pharm companies lo. More time for hobbies and families. Last two options need not face patients too.
We all know if you save and invest, you can earn more than a consultant in any specialty.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can GP or RP earn as much as specialists? Heard that less than 1/3 get into residency now.

Is it true that less than 1/3 enter residency now? Wish mohh actually publishes these data and be more transparent.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Aiya guys just fast fast finish bonds and then work in aesthetic clinics or lecturing or pharm companies lo. More time for hobbies and families. Last two options need not face patients too.
We all know if you save and invest, you can earn more than a consultant in any specialty.

I don't know why aesthetic always comes up.
You think it's simple to serve pple who come in seeking perfection? Like it's some money that is there for u to take.
You tio one SMC complaint u Sian Liao. often it's down to you say, I say so who correct. In polyclinic got nosense complaint also no mood few days. I dunno how those doc accused of molest survive 4 years.
Lecturing? Erm, MBBS only lei. You neither here nor there. Go polytechnic 6k salary.
Pharma..haha, dude MBBS. What credentials do u have. Those 15k job in pharma is either u work up, or u bring so much experience to the job.
U only earn when u use your doc license. Either u sell Ur time as a gp and do so forever ,or u Slough it out 10 years in public to rise to top of food chain , be a consultant and chill.

Now a days a lot of post ns guy broke bond all lured by the easy locum money during covid. Sit there 100 bucks an hour and trade stocks. One month 15k easy peasy money. Hei...sure regret later.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it true that less than 1/3 enter residency now? Wish mohh actually publishes these data and be more transparent.

One third, one tenth does it matter? U dun get in u dun get in.
If u suck, u suck.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

One third, one tenth does it matter? U dun get in u dun get in.
If u suck, u suck.

true. but bro, market survey is important.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't know why aesthetic always comes up.
You think it's simple to serve pple who come in seeking perfection? Like it's some money that is there for u to take.
You tio one SMC complaint u Sian Liao. often it's down to you say, I say so who correct. In polyclinic got nosense complaint also no mood few days. I dunno how those doc accused of molest survive 4 years.
Lecturing? Erm, MBBS only lei. You neither here nor there. Go polytechnic 6k salary.
Pharma..haha, dude MBBS. What credentials do u have. Those 15k job in pharma is either u work up, or u bring so much experience to the job.
U only earn when u use your doc license. Either u sell Ur time as a gp and do so forever ,or u Slough it out 10 years in public to rise to top of food chain , be a consultant and chill.

Now a days a lot of post ns guy broke bond all lured by the easy locum money during covid. Sit there 100 bucks an hour and trade stocks. One month 15k easy peasy money. Hei...sure regret later.

yes with aesthetic medicine. but so is any private patients in other specialties. you think money so easy to earn meh? any specialty you go into, you are literally trading your time for money.
also aesthetic medicine is easily better than GP life.

MBBS not enough to lecture? I dont mean you fresh out of med school and then go lecturing. i mean you help a bit here and there, buff up your CV on teaching.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yes with aesthetic medicine. but so is any private patients in other specialties. you think money so easy to earn meh? any specialty you go into, you are literally trading your time for money.
also aesthetic medicine is easily better than GP life.

MBBS not enough to lecture? I dont mean you fresh out of med school and then go lecturing. i mean you help a bit here and there, buff up your CV on teaching.

Private gp life not v hard la. U still have to satisfy them but their needs are simple. Need MC, some meds , listening ear, reassurance etc.
Aesthetics needs are harder. They want a better looking nose. So what is better looking. V subjective and because u charge them a lot, harder to satisfy.
Plus, u can't hit the ground running doing aesthetics. Someone must show u the ropes. And that someone isn't gonna teach u for free.

Mbbs is not enough to lecture. Yes u are a doctor but in academia, it is nothing. U can't teach any sci subject at JC, uni, polytechnic. u can't teach Medical students at any level. The most u can is lecture year 1 to 2 nursing student on some simple medicine stuff. Master of nursing students taught by at least AC level lei.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Private gp life not v hard la. U still have to satisfy them but their needs are simple. Need MC, some meds , listening ear, reassurance etc.
Aesthetics needs are harder. They want a better looking nose. So what is better looking. V subjective and because u charge them a lot, harder to satisfy.
Plus, u can't hit the ground running doing aesthetics. Someone must show u the ropes. And that someone isn't gonna teach u for free.

Mbbs is not enough to lecture. Yes u are a doctor but in academia, it is nothing. U can't teach any sci subject at JC, uni, polytechnic. u can't teach Medical students at any level. The most u can is lecture year 1 to 2 nursing student on some simple medicine stuff. Master of nursing students taught by at least AC level lei.

thank you for the insight on teaching. my misperception then. cannot even be a PBL tutor?

i once saw a private patient of my consultant and promised myself never to go private lol. hard to please...