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Old 26-06-2021, 09:41 AM
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As someone who has gone through NS and now in my last year of residency, I do feel like NS has given me a different perspective in life that cannot be replaced.

I don't think it should always about racing to the "finishing line" first. Rather, the journey matters too. If you work hard and don't be a trouble maker, you will get there eventually.

And before you say that I had an easy NS since I am MO, no, I actually completed NS before I got into medical school. During NS, I was basically abused by my S3. At one point in time, I had upwards of 70 extras, and my CO did nothing despite knowing of this.
Thanks for your post. May I ask which specialty you are in?
However I would reply to your post by saying there is currently a glut of residents in most specialties with a bottleneck at the end for consultant posts. As an above average resident myself I'm already resigned to the fact that I have to spend years as a SSR. Why should foreign-born doctors (since most foreigners took up PRs but did not serve NS) be given a priority in consultant posts when they didn't contribute to nation building that Singaporeans did? If the resumes of a Singapore-born and foreign doctor are the same, shouldn't MOHH give the Singapore-born doctor priority for consultant posts?



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Thanks for your post. May I ask which specialty you are in?
However I would reply to your post by saying there is currently a glut of residents in most specialties with a bottleneck at the end for consultant posts. As an above average resident myself I'm already resigned to the fact that I have to spend years as a SSR. Why should foreign-born doctors (since most foreigners took up PRs but did not serve NS) be given a priority in consultant posts when they didn't contribute to nation building that Singaporeans did? If the resumes of a Singapore-born and foreign doctor are the same, shouldn't MOHH give the Singapore-born doctor priority for consultant posts?

Come on what did u do during NS except to locum?

U got go into combat? U got treat gunshot wounds?
At most u just give mc to kengster

Stop making NS sounds like a big deal.
I was there for two years. So you can't hoodwink me

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Thanks for your post. May I ask which specialty you are in?
However I would reply to your post by saying there is currently a glut of residents in most specialties with a bottleneck at the end for consultant posts. As an above average resident myself I'm already resigned to the fact that I have to spend years as a SSR. Why should foreign-born doctors (since most foreigners took up PRs but did not serve NS) be given a priority in consultant posts when they didn't contribute to nation building that Singaporeans did? If the resumes of a Singapore-born and foreign doctor are the same, shouldn't MOHH give the Singapore-born doctor priority for consultant posts?
Thanks for your info. So any advice for future medical graduates? No intention to contribute to the bottleneck. LOL.

Apply to work in Aus/NZ/UK/US/Canada ? But these countries have drug/gun problems , not as safe as SG.

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Moving forward we going to continue narrow the pay between junior doctors (mo/rp) and the consultants.

We are going to continue letting AC to do step down calls.
The idea is to narrow the renumeration to make both tracks essentially equivalent.

AC and con get more pay but more responsibility.

We will continue to a strong supply of medical graduates from our local medical schools and augment with foreign graduates.

The key is to make good and affordable

Long gone are the days where mo earn 100 per day. Now they are fat and get 7k pgy 5 with calls. And they get global clinical allowance of 500 even without mrcs or mrcp

We will continue to review MO scheme and RP scheme to make it competitive when compared to pte salaried GP
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Thanks for your info. So any advice for future medical graduates? No intention to contribute to the bottleneck. LOL.

Apply to work in Aus/NZ/UK/US/Canada ? But these countries have drug/gun problems , not as safe as SG.
Gun problems? I think US yes. The rest not so. If you want more infor on Canada specifically I can share. Canada doesn't have that big a gun problem somehow.
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Come on what did u do during NS except to locum?

U got go into combat? U got treat gunshot wounds?
At most u just give mc to kengster

Stop making NS sounds like a big deal.
I was there for two years. So you can't hoodwink me
Shut up FTrash. Stop masquerading as a local. Be grateful you even have a job here.
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Thanks for your post. May I ask which specialty you are in?
However I would reply to your post by saying there is currently a glut of residents in most specialties with a bottleneck at the end for consultant posts. As an above average resident myself I'm already resigned to the fact that I have to spend years as a SSR. Why should foreign-born doctors (since most foreigners took up PRs but did not serve NS) be given a priority in consultant posts when they didn't contribute to nation building that Singaporeans did? If the resumes of a Singapore-born and foreign doctor are the same, shouldn't MOHH give the Singapore-born doctor priority for consultant posts?

Do you mind if I ask what is the average waiting time for ssr to associate consultant nowadays? And what is the pay for a SSR?
I am starting doing IM junior residency this coming July. I think medical specialty not as bad as surgery for now, but things might change in a few years. Was thinking should I just do GM given that there is the most job opportunities there?
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Thanks for your post. May I ask which specialty you are in?
However I would reply to your post by saying there is currently a glut of residents in most specialties with a bottleneck at the end for consultant posts. As an above average resident myself I'm already resigned to the fact that I have to spend years as a SSR. Why should foreign-born doctors (since most foreigners took up PRs but did not serve NS) be given a priority in consultant posts when they didn't contribute to nation building that Singaporeans did? If the resumes of a Singapore-born and foreign doctor are the same, shouldn't MOHH give the Singapore-born doctor priority for consultant posts?
I am in one of the niche, more competitive specialties. Unfortunately, that's the way of life in most occupations, not just medicine.

To your point regarding foreign-trained physicians not serving NS, I am sure you realize that SG women do not serve NS too. Do you feel like your female colleagues are also not deserving of consultant positions because they did not serve NS?

Having read through hundreds of residency applications over the years, I can assure you that CVs are almost NEVER equal. Some may favour publications over awards, and vice versa. But they are almost never equal.
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To your point regarding foreign-trained physicians not serving NS, I am sure you realize that SG women do not serve NS too. Do you feel like your female colleagues are also not deserving of consultant positions because they did not serve NS?
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This point is a red herring. Male-only NS obligation is already inherently unfair to singaporean men. But this arises from a national defence policy reason and is an immutable fact that we cannot argue against. Anyway that is a whole different topic.

We are talking about the current status quo which disadvantages male Singaporean doctors against foreign doctors for consultant posts. There's no policy reason to preserve the status quo disadvantage when Singapore males have done a valuable service for the nation.
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This point is a red herring. Male-only NS obligation is already inherently unfair to singaporean men. But this arises from a national defence policy reason and is an immutable fact that we cannot argue against. Anyway that is a whole different topic.

We are talking about the current status quo which disadvantages male Singaporean doctors against foreign doctors for consultant posts. There's no policy reason to preserve the status quo disadvantage when Singapore males have done a valuable service for the nation.

We the foreign doctors working and living in Singapore would like to thank the Singapore male doctors who serve NS so that we dont have to. Thank you
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