How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know the weekly schedule for a doctor who’s already a specialist?
I guess in each department and hospital is different, but I would like to have a general idea, when do you usually start and finish at the hospital.
Thank you

It's 8 am to 8 pm. Monday to Saturday.

Originally Posted by phantomdoctor

how much does a polyclinic fam med AC / C / SC earn?
is it comparable to a specialist AC / C / SC in hospital?

Polyclinic AC?
15k, more if Ur teamlet meet or exceed KPI.
Con is rare. They usually high salary cos many of them ex poly head and quite senior, every year 3 to 5 percent accumulate many years also get high salary.
Typically AC jump to C is 2-4k ish increment...but ish hard to get promoted . Must got pple like u and u got backing. Turn c is many years of sleepless nights. One covid hits u..u Sian liao, or u get involved in some high level project like telemedicine, built a new polyclinic etc.
SC even more rare like the proverbial unicorn. Most of them director level doing godnesss know what( or maybe nothing at all..haha)
Many likely max at 25k X the 6 to 8 months bonus so drawing 450k to 500k year. Not too many of them just based on the salary. These guys top of the food chain liao.

Hospital specialist getting their salary curb and theres a drive to normalise the older specialist salary to induce them to retire or go private
Procedurelist in ir, ortho no longer get the 50k monthly after turning senior con. The new pay scheme is not lucartive like last time. One new ortho AC in nuh getting about 12.3k , same as psy AC. Then ortho guys get about 1.5 to 2.5k more monthyl after the department divides up the table fee .
Worth it or not you decide.

In ops, family physician after your m.med is the working class, next level is ac. Most pple might work hard to get ac, after that cruise there. Actually, most want stay as fp level and not deal with too much crap. Family medicine lei , the family is already Infront of medicine. Family med draws lots of girls , a lot want to become mother and work part time or go home on time and look after child.
In hospital AC is the working class after you gain specialist accrediting. , Next level is c usually after 2 to 4 years. SC is not uncommon after 4 to 8 years.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Polyclinic AC?
15k, more if Ur teamlet meet or exceed KPI.
Con is rare. They usually high salary cos many of them ex poly head and quite senior, every year 3 to 5 percent accumulate many years also get high salary.
Typically AC jump to C is 2-4k ish increment...but ish hard to get promoted . Must got pple like u and u got backing. Turn c is many years of sleepless nights. One covid hits u..u Sian liao, or u get involved in some high level project like telemedicine, built a new polyclinic etc.
SC even more rare like the proverbial unicorn. Most of them director level doing godnesss know what( or maybe nothing at all..haha)
Many likely max at 25k X the 6 to 8 months bonus so drawing 450k to 500k year. Not too many of them just based on the salary. These guys top of the food chain liao.

Hospital specialist getting their salary curb and theres a drive to normalise the older specialist salary to induce them to retire or go private
Procedurelist in ir, ortho no longer get the 50k monthly after turning senior con. The new pay scheme is not lucartive like last time. One new ortho AC in nuh getting about 12.3k , same as psy AC. Then ortho guys get about 1.5 to 2.5k more monthyl after the department divides up the table fee .
Worth it or not you decide.

In ops, family physician after your m.med is the working class, next level is ac. Most pple might work hard to get ac, after that cruise there. Actually, most want stay as fp level and not deal with too much crap. Family medicine lei , the family is already Infront of medicine. Family med draws lots of girls , a lot want to become mother and work part time or go home on time and look after child.
In hospital AC is the working class after you gain specialist accrediting. , Next level is c usually after 2 to 4 years. SC is not uncommon after 4 to 8 years.

Thank you bro/sis.

What about medical specialists like Rheum or Derm?

Thank you very much.
Do you mean 15k/month base pay?
Or after adding in all the bonuses and divided by 12?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Polyclinic AC?
15k, more if Ur teamlet meet or exceed KPI.
Con is rare. They usually high salary cos many of them ex poly head and quite senior, every year 3 to 5 percent accumulate many years also get high salary.
Typically AC jump to C is 2-4k ish increment...but ish hard to get promoted . Must got pple like u and u got backing. Turn c is many years of sleepless nights. One covid hits u..u Sian liao, or u get involved in some high level project like telemedicine, built a new polyclinic etc.
SC even more rare like the proverbial unicorn. Most of them director level doing godnesss know what( or maybe nothing at all..haha)
Many likely max at 25k X the 6 to 8 months bonus so drawing 450k to 500k year. Not too many of them just based on the salary. These guys top of the food chain liao.

Hospital specialist getting their salary curb and theres a drive to normalise the older specialist salary to induce them to retire or go private
Procedurelist in ir, ortho no longer get the 50k monthly after turning senior con. The new pay scheme is not lucartive like last time. One new ortho AC in nuh getting about 12.3k , same as psy AC. Then ortho guys get about 1.5 to 2.5k more monthyl after the department divides up the table fee .
Worth it or not you decide.

In ops, family physician after your m.med is the working class, next level is ac. Most pple might work hard to get ac, after that cruise there. Actually, most want stay as fp level and not deal with too much crap. Family medicine lei , the family is already Infront of medicine. Family med draws lots of girls , a lot want to become mother and work part time or go home on time and look after child.
In hospital AC is the working class after you gain specialist accrediting. , Next level is c usually after 2 to 4 years. SC is not uncommon after 4 to 8 years.

So even with FCFP(S), may not become Con?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Polyclinic AC?
15k, more if Ur teamlet meet or exceed KPI.
Con is rare. They usually high salary cos many of them ex poly head and quite senior, every year 3 to 5 percent accumulate many years also get high salary.
Typically AC jump to C is 2-4k ish increment...but ish hard to get promoted . Must got pple like u and u got backing. Turn c is many years of sleepless nights. One covid hits u..u Sian liao, or u get involved in some high level project like telemedicine, built a new polyclinic etc.
SC even more rare like the proverbial unicorn. Most of them director level doing godnesss know what( or maybe nothing at all..haha)
Many likely max at 25k X the 6 to 8 months bonus so drawing 450k to 500k year. Not too many of them just based on the salary. These guys top of the food chain liao.

Hospital specialist getting their salary curb and theres a drive to normalise the older specialist salary to induce them to retire or go private
Procedurelist in ir, ortho no longer get the 50k monthly after turning senior con. The new pay scheme is not lucartive like last time. One new ortho AC in nuh getting about 12.3k , same as psy AC. Then ortho guys get about 1.5 to 2.5k more monthyl after the department divides up the table fee .
Worth it or not you decide.

In ops, family physician after your m.med is the working class, next level is ac. Most pple might work hard to get ac, after that cruise there. Actually, most want stay as fp level and not deal with too much crap. Family medicine lei , the family is already Infront of medicine. Family med draws lots of girls , a lot want to become mother and work part time or go home on time and look after child.
In hospital AC is the working class after you gain specialist accrediting. , Next level is c usually after 2 to 4 years. SC is not uncommon after 4 to 8 years.

The exit qualification to practice independently as a family physician is the m.med.
Currently the fcfp doesn't auto quality u for AC in the poly. It is however needed to qualify u for AC in the hospital. Who knows , maybe one fine day moh will give family med speciality status and u need to exit with a fcfp.
Anyway fcfp is learning about research, teaching paedology, and handling complex patient. It's not a clinical competency exam like the m.med but a true blue fellowship as in your learn to perform and lead at a higher standard.
Let us not kid ourselves, the dip family med standard v different from a m.med although both qualify u for fp status. The fcfp fp is one notch above the m.med. there's like only 150 of them in Singapore.

Also..what's with the question about rhuematology Vs dermatology salary. Seriously la, use some brains before you ask. The rheumatologist is earning 184.612k per year while the demarologist is earning 191.2k per year. Happy? The fp earns 400k per year.
No one will tell u what a full c earns. It's variable depending on department, your star status and how u bargain in the contract. What is confirm is that a) salaries are more normalise between the procedural and non procedural specialities going forward b) u not going to starve once u complete your training but u are no going to well afford that bunglow like doctors from the 90s. Save a bit can buy condo, maybe drive a conti car and go holiday 2 times a year..same like a school teacher, engineer, accountant....

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The exit qualification to practice independently as a family physician is the m.med.
Currently the fcfp doesn't auto quality u for AC in the poly. It is however needed to qualify u for AC in the hospital. Who knows , maybe one fine day moh will give family med speciality status and u need to exit with a fcfp.
Anyway fcfp is learning about research, teaching paedology, and handling complex patient. It's not a clinical competency exam like the m.med but a true blue fellowship as in your learn to perform and lead at a higher standard.
Let us not kid ourselves, the dip family med standard v different from a m.med although both qualify u for fp status. The fcfp fp is one notch above the m.med. there's like only 150 of them in Singapore.

Also..what's with the question about rhuematology Vs dermatology salary. Seriously la, use some brains before you ask. The rheumatologist is earning 184.612k per year while the demarologist is earning 191.2k per year. Happy? The fp earns 400k per year.
No one will tell u what a full c earns. It's variable depending on department, your star status and how u bargain in the contract. What is confirm is that a) salaries are more normalise between the procedural and non procedural specialities going forward b) u not going to starve once u complete your training but u are no going to well afford that bunglow like doctors from the 90s. Save a bit can buy condo, maybe drive a conti car and go holiday 2 times a year..same like a school teacher, engineer, accountant....

My ortho prof told me condo dr can afford.
Coz 1-1.5mil monthly mortgage about 4-6k quite easy.

Terrace also quite hard for an employee.
semi-d at 5million is out of the question.

What is the difference between getting gdfm versus going through fam med residency in terms of recognition and job opportunities?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The exit qualification to practice independently as a family physician is the m.med.
Currently the fcfp doesn't auto quality u for AC in the poly. It is however needed to qualify u for AC in the hospital. Who knows , maybe one fine day moh will give family med speciality status and u need to exit with a fcfp.
Anyway fcfp is learning about research, teaching paedology, and handling complex patient. It's not a clinical competency exam like the m.med but a true blue fellowship as in your learn to perform and lead at a higher standard.
Let us not kid ourselves, the dip family med standard v different from a m.med although both qualify u for fp status. The fcfp fp is one notch above the m.med. there's like only 150 of them in Singapore.

Also..what's with the question about rhuematology Vs dermatology salary. Seriously la, use some brains before you ask. The rheumatologist is earning 184.612k per year while the demarologist is earning 191.2k per year. Happy? The fp earns 400k per year.
No one will tell u what a full c earns. It's variable depending on department, your star status and how u bargain in the contract. What is confirm is that a) salaries are more normalise between the procedural and non procedural specialities going forward b) u not going to starve once u complete your training but u are no going to well afford that bunglow like doctors from the 90s. Save a bit can buy condo, maybe drive a conti car and go holiday 2 times a year..same like a school teacher, engineer, accountant....

Sorry Med student here. If FP make more than specialists, then what's the point of spending all the extra years specializing, besides intellectual stimulation and better patient care of course?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sorry Med student here. If FP make more than specialists, then what's the point of spending all the extra years specializing, besides intellectual stimulation and better patient care of course?

What’s the point of studying medicine when lawyers , software engineers, bankers, admin service make more than you?