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Old 27-09-2020, 05:08 PM
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Would appreciate some advice. Currently a year 2 FM resident, but not really enjoying residency due to the multiple paperwork, projects (qip/research) that we have to do.. ( I am actually ok with the clinical work in ops/community hospital)

I am pgy 5. So bond finished. Have previously worked in ed before. Also completed gdfm.
Thinking of quitting residency and becoming a RP either in ops/ed.

Can I ask if
1) quitting residency is seen as a big red flag? (I.e no public institution will hire you?)
2) Can I check if a resident physician typically earns around 8-9k whereas a senior RP earns slightly over 10k?
3) How much admin work (or extra clinical duties in the form of teaching/admin/research) does a rp needs to do as compared to a specialist consultant?
4) can resident physician (eg. Based in ops/ed) do locum during weekends or their off days?
5) also recently attend the woodlands campus roadshow, they are talking about hiring hospital clinicians who apparently can work in 2 different departments (e.g community hosp and ED) but not sure how true is this.
- I certainly wouldn't mind working in ed and community hospital if such an opportunity arises.(as I enjoy the clinical work for both)

Would appreciate advice from seniors, especially those who have joined and quitted a residency program..

Thanks

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Old 27-09-2020, 05:20 PM
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Would appreciate some advice. Currently a year 2 FM resident, but not really enjoying residency due to the multiple paperwork, projects (qip/research) that we have to do.. ( I am actually ok with the clinical work in ops/community hospital)

I am pgy 5. So bond finished. Have previously worked in ed before. Also completed gdfm.
Thinking of quitting residency and becoming a RP either in ops/ed.

Can I ask if
1) quitting residency is seen as a big red flag? (I.e no public institution will hire you?)
2) Can I check if a resident physician typically earns around 8-9k whereas a senior RP earns slightly over 10k?
3) How much admin work (or extra clinical duties in the form of teaching/admin/research) does a rp needs to do as compared to a specialist consultant?
4) can resident physician (eg. Based in ops/ed) do locum during weekends or their off days?
5) also recently attend the woodlands campus roadshow, they are talking about hiring hospital clinicians who apparently can work in 2 different departments (e.g community hosp and ED) but not sure how true is this.
- I certainly wouldn't mind working in ed and community hospital if such an opportunity arises.(as I enjoy the clinical work for both)

Would appreciate advice from seniors, especially those who have joined and quitted a residency program..

Thanks

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Old 27-09-2020, 05:49 PM
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Would appreciate some advice. Currently a year 2 FM resident, but not really enjoying residency due to the multiple paperwork, projects (qip/research) that we have to do.. ( I am actually ok with the clinical work in ops/community hospital)

I am pgy 5. So bond finished. Have previously worked in ed before. Also completed gdfm.
Thinking of quitting residency and becoming a RP either in ops/ed.

Can I ask if
1) quitting residency is seen as a big red flag? (I.e no public institution will hire you?)
2) Can I check if a resident physician typically earns around 8-9k whereas a senior RP earns slightly over 10k?
3) How much admin work (or extra clinical duties in the form of teaching/admin/research) does a rp needs to do as compared to a specialist consultant?
4) can resident physician (eg. Based in ops/ed) do locum during weekends or their off days?
5) also recently attend the woodlands campus roadshow, they are talking about hiring hospital clinicians who apparently can work in 2 different departments (e.g community hosp and ED) but not sure how true is this.
- I certainly wouldn't mind working in ed and community hospital if such an opportunity arises.(as I enjoy the clinical work for both)

Would appreciate advice from seniors, especially those who have joined and quitted a residency program..

Thanks

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Old 27-09-2020, 08:32 PM
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Would appreciate some advice. Currently a year 2 FM resident, but not really enjoying residency due to the multiple paperwork, projects (qip/research) that we have to do.. ( I am actually ok with the clinical work in ops/community hospital)

I am pgy 5. So bond finished. Have previously worked in ed before. Also completed gdfm.
Thinking of quitting residency and becoming a RP either in ops/ed.

Can I ask if
1) quitting residency is seen as a big red flag? (I.e no public institution will hire you?)
2) Can I check if a resident physician typically earns around 8-9k whereas a senior RP earns slightly over 10k?
3) How much admin work (or extra clinical duties in the form of teaching/admin/research) does a rp needs to do as compared to a specialist consultant?
4) can resident physician (eg. Based in ops/ed) do locum during weekends or their off days?
5) also recently attend the woodlands campus roadshow, they are talking about hiring hospital clinicians who apparently can work in 2 different departments (e.g community hosp and ED) but not sure how true is this.
- I certainly wouldn't mind working in ed and community hospital if such an opportunity arises.(as I enjoy the clinical work for both)

Would appreciate advice from seniors, especially those who have joined and quitted a residency program.

Thanks
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Old 29-09-2020, 05:47 PM
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Ultimate responsibilities lies with con.
Reg is stressful cos it's a training position and you don't know wtf is going on initially. Junior ask u for advice, boss expects u to know better.
Things slightly better when u become ac. Ac actually still learning phase, esp in more diff speciality like ID, renal, various surgical , interventional sub spec.
With con, Ur clinical responsibility is v high, scut work is low.
A lot of sai Kang comes your way as AC to con. If u don't work hard no AC to con or wait till very long.
Nowadays they pump out so many specialist, u don't work hard might not even get ac position, so you think they really go back office and chill? Your salary also chill lor.

Family med con?
3 areas.
Hospital , community hospital and polyclinic.
Hospital one is like FMcc at sgh and the various small faculty position at diff hospital. Not a lot of position to go around. You have a fcfp, u get a ac to start with and work your way up.
Community hospital more positions. Now typically need fcfp to get ac position and then work Ur way up.
Work is actually interesting and more consultant position to go around. Singhealth community hospital quite partial to family medicine trained folks as all the bosses are fam med. Other include yishun Ch, st Luke , st Andrew, Jurong etc, so far all the bosses family med trained and v nice.

Polyclinic wise, actually with a m.med u can get ac, but u stay stagnant there unless u earmark for higher office and they encourage u to take up fcfp so they can promote u to consultant. Promotion to full con within polyclinic harder la generally speaking so far, but things are improving as primary care taking center stage so maybe more position will open up.

Also..don't listen to some crap about how lucrative private is. Lots of idiotic non doc crashing thread and confusing pple.
how much the pay between the 3 fm tracks? someone help respond plz dont want to be broke forever.
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Old 30-09-2020, 09:03 AM
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Would appreciate some advice. Currently a year 2 FM resident, but not really enjoying residency due to the multiple paperwork, projects (qip/research) that we have to do.. ( I am actually ok with the clinical work in ops/community hospital)

I am pgy 5. So bond finished. Have previously worked in ed before. Also completed gdfm.
Thinking of quitting residency and becoming a RP either in ops/ed.

Can I ask if
1) quitting residency is seen as a big red flag? (I.e no public institution will hire you?)
2) Can I check if a resident physician typically earns around 8-9k whereas a senior RP earns slightly over 10k?
3) How much admin work (or extra clinical duties in the form of teaching/admin/research) does a rp needs to do as compared to a specialist consultant?
4) can resident physician (eg. Based in ops/ed) do locum during weekends or their off days?
5) also recently attend the woodlands campus roadshow, they are talking about hiring hospital clinicians who apparently can work in 2 different departments (e.g community hosp and ED) but not sure how true is this.
- I certainly wouldn't mind working in ed and community hospital if such an opportunity arises.(as I enjoy the clinical work for both)

Would appreciate advice from seniors, especially those who have joined and quitted a residency program.

Thanks
So concerned that you post 4 times?
Work in Ch and a&e?
They are not complementary la
One require shift work, the other need u to know the patient. In your residency , have u done a community hospital posting? As the CH junior, u run the ward, tomorrow u not there, the very next day, u still have to mop up the work, something u can't hand over one. Don't be beguiled into such jobs.
Appraisal time how? 2 set of bosses. You have to appeal to both.
Suck one set of balls already tired, now u have to suck two. You not bunny, ERM, Jan, cough, Jan.

Salary about there. Max u get is principal rp, salary about that of a matured AC. u locum easier can get more than that.
End of the day, if u can tong till the end and pass exams, your life easier and money not too bad for the effort.
If u Sian, don't want study, be a rp also can, but stay one department. Don't be rp in a&e la, u end up being equally skilled as the specialist but wonder why your salary lesser, plus the night shifts... you go locum 24 hours clinic surely match that. Stay community hospital, work Ur way up , rp, senior rp, principal rp.. if gung-ho, can do m.med as private candidate later, some Ch also accept mrcp which u confirm plus chop with Ch patient and their wonderful clinical signs, can pass. Public servicel end of the day, qualification counts.

Also, FM residency is like that one. Many extra stuff. Unless u going for gold medal, no need put too much effort. They will close one eye and pass you. The real litmus test is the part 2 clinical at m.med.

Many pple quit residency. This is different from sack from residency. No one cares.
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Old 30-09-2020, 01:19 PM
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Anybody have experience doing admin-type postings eg those at MOHH?

Interested to find out more about how to mopex there and what the experience is like. Is preventive med residency or a MPH the only way to progress in MOH?
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Old 30-09-2020, 05:12 PM
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Lots of new doctors dream about admin

So strange that at JC they wanted to be doctors

But after 5 years of medical sch and 1 year of ho ship, all wanna go admin.

We must medicine sign a ten years clinical bond instead.
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So concerned that you post 4 times?
Work in Ch and a&e?
They are not complementary la
One require shift work, the other need u to know the patient. In your residency , have u done a community hospital posting? As the CH junior, u run the ward, tomorrow u not there, the very next day, u still have to mop up the work, something u can't hand over one. Don't be beguiled into such jobs.
Appraisal time how? 2 set of bosses. You have to appeal to both.
Suck one set of balls already tired, now u have to suck two. You not bunny, ERM, Jan, cough, Jan.

Salary about there. Max u get is principal rp, salary about that of a matured AC. u locum easier can get more than that.
End of the day, if u can tong till the end and pass exams, your life easier and money not too bad for the effort.
If u Sian, don't want study, be a rp also can, but stay one department. Don't be rp in a&e la, u end up being equally skilled as the specialist but wonder why your salary lesser, plus the night shifts... you go locum 24 hours clinic surely match that. Stay community hospital, work Ur way up , rp, senior rp, principal rp.. if gung-ho, can do m.med as private candidate later, some Ch also accept mrcp which u confirm plus chop with Ch patient and their wonderful clinical signs, can pass. Public servicel end of the day, qualification counts.

Also, FM residency is like that one. Many extra stuff. Unless u going for gold medal, no need put too much effort. They will close one eye and pass you. The real litmus test is the part 2 clinical at m.med.

Many pple quit residency. This is different from sack from residency. No one cares.
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If you pass through fm residency, but interested to work in ed/urgent care center (e.g in Ah or woodlands), would they hire you or are your skills totally irrelevant?
I am also fm resident, (year 3) but really not interested in ops/CH after working there as I like some acuity in my dailywork.
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Old 30-09-2020, 08:36 PM
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Why quit if you are going to be doing the same type of work anyway, ie working in OPS setting. Count yourself blessed you got a residency post and grit your teeth through tje additional paperwork. It's not going to be forever. Since you are halfway through might as well finish residency. The option to quit will still be there. Options...they are precious.

QUOTE=Unregistered;146303]Would appreciate some advice. Currently a year 2 FM resident, but not really enjoying residency due to the multiple paperwork, projects (qip/research) that we have to do.. ( I am actually ok with the clinical work in ops/community hospital)

I am pgy 5. So bond finished. Have previously worked in ed before. Also completed gdfm.
Thinking of quitting residency and becoming a RP either in ops/ed.

Can I ask if
1) quitting residency is seen as a big red flag? (I.e no public institution will hire you?)
2) Can I check if a resident physician typically earns around 8-9k whereas a senior RP earns slightly over 10k?
3) How much admin work (or extra clinical duties in the form of teaching/admin/research) does a rp needs to do as compared to a specialist consultant?
4) can resident physician (eg. Based in ops/ed) do locum during weekends or their off days?
5) also recently attend the woodlands campus roadshow, they are talking about hiring hospital clinicians who apparently can work in 2 different departments (e.g community hosp and ED) but not sure how true is this.
- I certainly wouldn't mind working in ed and community hospital if such an opportunity arises.(as I enjoy the clinical work for both)

Would appreciate advice from seniors, especially those who have joined and quitted a residency program.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
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