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Old 16-09-2020, 11:03 PM
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Just curious, is the life of a gp really better than that of a hospital consultant? (as what many people have claimed)
I am currently still a junior mo (so may not see the whole picture), but from what I can see life as a consultant doesn't look too bad. They finish their ward rounds usually by late morning, then just chill in their office for the rest of the day. Most of the issues in the ward seem to be handled by the reg. Of course, they do run clinics and do some research work in addition, but overall life doesn't seem to be too bad, as compared to gps who run clinic everyday..
Haha, chill in office all day?
Ya, hire consultants for what right. Hire registrar's and mo can liao.
Pls la, use some brains before u post this.
And the amt of misinformation....

Additional responsibilities such as vice dean, programme director etc pays extra.

You don't need 12 years to hit family med con. Duh?
Mcfps is by nomination after 1 year , can be obtained co currently when u do fcfps
Fastest from residency to finish fcfp for family med is 6 years
3 year residency, 4th year m.med exams, 5th and 6th year fellowship.
Fcfp doesn't gauranteed u a consultant position anyway.

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Old 17-09-2020, 12:47 PM
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Haha, chill in office all day?
Ya, hire consultants for what right. Hire registrar's and mo can liao.
Pls la, use some brains before u post this.
And the amt of misinformation....

Additional responsibilities such as vice dean, programme director etc pays extra.

You don't need 12 years to hit family med con. Duh?
Mcfps is by nomination after 1 year , can be obtained co currently when u do fcfps
Fastest from residency to finish fcfp for family med is 6 years
3 year residency, 4th year m.med exams, 5th and 6th year fellowship.
Fcfp doesn't gauranteed u a consultant position anyway.
So life as consultant more stressful than reg?
So how do one get consultant position in fam med ?

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Old 17-09-2020, 02:46 PM
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Hospital consultant is definitely way better. GP you have to see patients the entire day for lower pay. Con you do morning rounds after the registrar has pre-rounded and in the afternoon either chill admin time or clinics at 30min per patient
This is accurate. That's why there are limited con positions available because they are so lucrative.

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Old 17-09-2020, 03:10 PM
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This is accurate. That's why there are limited con positions available because they are so lucrative.
Provided private patient then 30min in hosp clinic

For subsidised clinic

Usually what happens is con run his clinic, but with 4 other minions.
The minion clerk, the con go around and clear cases that the minons clerk


In the private sector one patient can slowly use two hours.
My recommendation is ensure you have a rich dad. <- this is a key step. If no rich dad, then no point already
Send you overseas to study med and do overseas training
Do the compulsory 2-4 years hosp work to become Full reg
Then Ask ur dad to sponsor u $$ to open own clinic
Then sponsor u $$ to do google ads.
When people type any words related to your spec, Make your clinic is listed on the top.
Initially will burn a bit of cash, for first two years but third year on will be profitable

Then return ur dad the three million he invested
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Old 17-09-2020, 09:27 PM
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So life as consultant more stressful than reg?
So how do one get consultant position in fam med ?
Ultimate responsibilities lies with con.
Reg is stressful cos it's a training position and you don't know wtf is going on initially. Junior ask u for advice, boss expects u to know better.
Things slightly better when u become ac. Ac actually still learning phase, esp in more diff speciality like ID, renal, various surgical , interventional sub spec.
With con, Ur clinical responsibility is v high, scut work is low.
A lot of sai Kang comes your way as AC to con. If u don't work hard no AC to con or wait till very long.
Nowadays they pump out so many specialist, u don't work hard might not even get ac position, so you think they really go back office and chill? Your salary also chill lor.

Family med con?
3 areas.
Hospital , community hospital and polyclinic.
Hospital one is like FMcc at sgh and the various small faculty position at diff hospital. Not a lot of position to go around. You have a fcfp, u get a ac to start with and work your way up.
Community hospital more positions. Now typically need fcfp to get ac position and then work Ur way up.
Work is actually interesting and more consultant position to go around. Singhealth community hospital quite partial to family medicine trained folks as all the bosses are fam med. Other include yishun Ch, st Luke , st Andrew, Jurong etc, so far all the bosses family med trained and v nice.

Polyclinic wise, actually with a m.med u can get ac, but u stay stagnant there unless u earmark for higher office and they encourage u to take up fcfp so they can promote u to consultant. Promotion to full con within polyclinic harder la generally speaking so far, but things are improving as primary care taking center stage so maybe more position will open up.

Also..don't listen to some crap about how lucrative private is. Lots of idiotic non doc crashing thread and confusing pple.
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Old 18-09-2020, 02:34 AM
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Provided private patient then 30min in hosp clinic

For subsidised clinic

Usually what happens is con run his clinic, but with 4 other minions.
The minion clerk, the con go around and clear cases that the minons clerk


In the private sector one patient can slowly use two hours.
My recommendation is ensure you have a rich dad. <- this is a key step. If no rich dad, then no point already
Send you overseas to study med and do overseas training
Do the compulsory 2-4 years hosp work to become Full reg
Then Ask ur dad to sponsor u $$ to open own clinic
Then sponsor u $$ to do google ads.
When people type any words related to your spec, Make your clinic is listed on the top.
Initially will burn a bit of cash, for first two years but third year on will be profitable

Then return ur dad the three million he invested
Unless you are doing Cosmetics, I am not sure how many patients actually search for doctors through Google Ads.
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Old 18-09-2020, 01:17 PM
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Ultimate responsibilities lies with con.
Reg is stressful cos it's a training position and you don't know wtf is going on initially. Junior ask u for advice, boss expects u to know better.
Things slightly better when u become ac. Ac actually still learning phase, esp in more diff speciality like ID, renal, various surgical , interventional sub spec.
With con, Ur clinical responsibility is v high, scut work is low.
A lot of sai Kang comes your way as AC to con. If u don't work hard no AC to con or wait till very long.
Nowadays they pump out so many specialist, u don't work hard might not even get ac position, so you think they really go back office and chill? Your salary also chill lor.

Family med con?
3 areas.
Hospital , community hospital and polyclinic.
Hospital one is like FMcc at sgh and the various small faculty position at diff hospital. Not a lot of position to go around. You have a fcfp, u get a ac to start with and work your way up.
Community hospital more positions. Now typically need fcfp to get ac position and then work Ur way up.
Work is actually interesting and more consultant position to go around. Singhealth community hospital quite partial to family medicine trained folks as all the bosses are fam med. Other include yishun Ch, st Luke , st Andrew, Jurong etc, so far all the bosses family med trained and v nice.

Polyclinic wise, actually with a m.med u can get ac, but u stay stagnant there unless u earmark for higher office and they encourage u to take up fcfp so they can promote u to consultant. Promotion to full con within polyclinic harder la generally speaking so far, but things are improving as primary care taking center stage so maybe more position will open up.

Also..don't listen to some crap about how lucrative private is. Lots of idiotic non doc crashing thread and confusing pple.
Do the Ac/ consultant in comm hospital or ops get paid the same as their specialist counterparts in am acute hospital? And Ac pay is like 15k plus add ons?
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Old 20-09-2020, 04:59 PM
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Hi all, would like some advice. Have anyone here (or encountered anyone) who completed their residency training, but subsequently got bored with their speciality?
I completed residency a few years back, currently a medical (gm) ac. I am starting to get bored with my daily work, as the patients that we see are largely revolving around the same few issues.. to add to that the silly things we have to do, like responding to complaints, quality improvement projects etc..
Obviously, I will continue in my job until the entire covid thing blows over, but I just can't see myself doing my current job for the next 25-30 years..
I am not sure what opportunities are available outside for a gm specialist.

Guess this question may be more applicable to senior colleagues, but just curious if any specialist/family physician here is seriously bored of their speciality that they are trained in? (After doing the same things over and over again..)
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Old 20-09-2020, 11:01 PM
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Hi all, would like some advice. Have anyone here (or encountered anyone) who completed their residency training, but subsequently got bored with their speciality?
I completed residency a few years back, currently a medical (gm) ac. I am starting to get bored with my daily work, as the patients that we see are largely revolving around the same few issues.. to add to that the silly things we have to do, like responding to complaints, quality improvement projects etc..
Obviously, I will continue in my job until the entire covid thing blows over, but I just can't see myself doing my current job for the next 25-30 years..
I am not sure what opportunities are available outside for a gm specialist.

Guess this question may be more applicable to senior colleagues, but just curious if any specialist/family physician here is seriously bored of their speciality that they are trained in? (After doing the same things over and over again..)

Since u complete Im training alr
Go for icu subspec or sport Med or pall Med

Outside Im is quite useless. U canít really call yourself a specialist coz Im is fundamentally a generalist. Even more Jia lat than Geri.
So u end up same pay as gp.

Alternatively join politics or device companies or pharmaceuticals companies as medical director

Go run for politics
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Old 22-09-2020, 01:30 PM
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Hi seniors,

I'm a final year student at one of the local medical schools and just wanted to get some advice. I've fixed my heart on a specialty and cannot see myself doing anything else in the future. It's not one of those super competitive specs, intake rate approx 40%. But with the push towards fam med I'm worried I can't make it in even if I do a few years of MO in the spec.

May I ask what seniors generally look for when considering whether a junior is considered a good fit for a spec? How important are HOship posting evals if the spec I want to go into isn't part of my HO postings? How do I show my interest without coming across as bootlicking?

If I really don't manage to get into this spec locally I would seriously consider going overseas to do residency instead. Wonder if anyone knows if MOH would allow a grant for the bond to be suspended in this case.

Thanks!
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