How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Spending 2 or 3 extra years as an MO just to get into residency sounds like a bad deal


I would rather spend 2 years preparing for usmle at home like the Indian imgs on .

That is an option.

however 2-3 years isnt much in a broad timeline.If you want to be Singapore based and in a speciality of your choice.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That is an option.

however 2-3 years isnt much in a broad timeline.If you want to be Singapore based and in a speciality of your choice.

yea 2-3 years still okay. It’s only not okay if ur not among those who actually get into training.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ranges from as low as 18k a month to as high as 60k a month. But u have to work 2X the hours compared to your specialists friends. Higher earners usually partners of multiple clinics/have a very busy clinic with long hours Monday-Sunday no rest.

Hard life GP but that’s the price u paid for not specialising.

Not sure if being GP is really that bad. I mean I work 830-530, doing health screening in a CBD clinic. Sat half day. Most of my patients are well, as they are here for screening. I get paid ard 220-230k /year, depending on variable bonus.
Job is pretty straightforward as PTS are not sick. Most abnormalities I am obliged to refer, as my clinic is a pure health screening clinic, and does not have any meds, so I am not too stressed about managing anything.

Many of my PTS are working in the corporate world, from my conversation with them, most would bite their hand off for a 220k/year job with regular working hours and a relatively mundane and easy work life

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure if being GP is really that bad. I mean I work 830-530, doing health screening in a CBD clinic. Sat half day. Most of my patients are well, as they are here for screening. I get paid ard 220-230k /year, depending on variable bonus.
Job is pretty straightforward as PTS are not sick. Most abnormalities I am obliged to refer, as my clinic is a pure health screening clinic, and does not have any meds, so I am not too stressed about managing anything.

Many of my PTS are working in the corporate world, from my conversation with them, most would bite their hand off for a 220k/year job with regular working hours and a relatively mundane and easy work life

wait why are u making so less as an experienced GP?? You should be more entrepreneurial or find a better opportunity

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure if being GP is really that bad. I mean I work 830-530, doing health screening in a CBD clinic. Sat half day. Most of my patients are well, as they are here for screening. I get paid ard 220-230k /year, depending on variable bonus.
Job is pretty straightforward as PTS are not sick. Most abnormalities I am obliged to refer, as my clinic is a pure health screening clinic, and does not have any meds, so I am not too stressed about managing anything.

Many of my PTS are working in the corporate world, from my conversation with them, most would bite their hand off for a 220k/year job with regular working hours and a relatively mundane and easy work life

Seems your pay package matches the description of an anchor doc at Healthway/downtown screening clinic.. well it’s good if you compare to the average corporate world (I mean average.. because there’s tech bros making easily more than that/legal counsels making more than that)

Unfortunately you will never outearn a specialist in private.. a surgeon can make your yearly wage easily in a month… even psychiatrists can make than double of what you make in a day, while seeing less than half of the patients you see

Originally Posted by Unregistered

wait why are u making so less as an experienced GP?? You should be more entrepreneurial or find a better opportunity

GP wage is stagnant.. even at a top chain theres no way to increase your wage unless you work more hours.. so the pay scale is standard from 180k-260k/year

THATs WHY DONT BE A GP.. U think setting up a clinic is easy??? Many old timer GPs already captured the market.. as a young guy your clinic will close down for sure

Patients don’t look at your qualifications they go to doctor that they trust. U see those old timer GP with MBBS only out earning those fresh faces FP docs with a MMED..

GP market is tough. You won’t be poor but don’t expect your salary to SCALE like a specialist.

That’s the truth.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

GP wage is stagnant.. even at a top chain theres no way to increase your wage unless you work more hours.. so the pay scale is standard from 180k-260k/year

THATs WHY DONT BE A GP.. U think setting up a clinic is easy??? Many old timer GPs already captured the market.. as a young guy your clinic will close down for sure

Patients don’t look at your qualifications they go to doctor that they trust. U see those old timer GP with MBBS only out earning those fresh faces FP docs with a MMED..

GP market is tough. You won’t be poor but don’t expect your salary to SCALE like a specialist.

That’s the truth.

yea ofc i’m going to either do arshtitc route or try to specialise then come back. I’m keen on opthal and psych because i like outpatient so i will be trying that. MSRA score was good and portfolio score good also just need clear interview now then i’m set

Originally Posted by Unregistered

GP wage is stagnant.. even at a top chain theres no way to increase your wage unless you work more hours.. so the pay scale is standard from 180k-260k/year

THATs WHY DONT BE A GP.. U think setting up a clinic is easy??? Many old timer GPs already captured the market.. as a young guy your clinic will close down for sure

Patients don’t look at your qualifications they go to doctor that they trust. U see those old timer GP with MBBS only out earning those fresh faces FP docs with a MMED..

GP market is tough. You won’t be poor but don’t expect your salary to SCALE like a specialist.

That’s the truth.

Actually people are missing the point. I am saying that one can make 220k+/- per year as a GP with very little stress and I would dare say practically no worries of retrenchment.
There are people who can make more, but I would say for the life and relatively easy work, it would be above average in sg already. I.e don't make it sound like one would be in poverty/have issues with retirement planning if he chooses the GP route. (Maybe house smaller and eat less than specialist but won't starve la)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

wait why are u making so less as an experienced GP?? You should be more entrepreneurial or find a better opportunity

Can I ask, is the salary of a FM associate consultant or consultant (assuming that one has completed fcfp) comparable/similar to their non procedural counterparts (e.g Geri, IM, rheum, endocrine, diagnostic radiology) in public institutions?

I am seeing Community hospital (CH) employing residents of both FM and IM (usually Geri/rehab/AIM) backgrounds. They are given titles of associate consultants and eventually consultants after completing the relevant qualifications (i.e fcfp for FM, exit exams for the IM Sr etc). Was wondering if they are remunerated similarly as I presume they are essentially doing the same job in the same CH as a senior doctor.
And similarly if fp consultants in ops are paid the same (again after they complete fcfp and the relevant requirements to become consultant)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask, is the salary of a FM associate consultant or consultant (assuming that one has completed fcfp) comparable/similar to their non procedural counterparts (e.g Geri, IM, rheum, endocrine, diagnostic radiology) in public institutions?

I am seeing Community hospital (CH) employing residents of both FM and IM (usually Geri/rehab/AIM) backgrounds. They are given titles of associate consultants and eventually consultants after completing the relevant qualifications (i.e fcfp for FM, exit exams for the IM Sr etc). Was wondering if they are remunerated similarly as I presume they are essentially doing the same job in the same CH as a senior doctor.
And similarly if fp consultants in ops are paid the same (again after they complete fcfp and the relevant requirements to become consultant)

Lol radiologists are on a different pay scale altogether
Please do not group them with IM trained specialists