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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Let's learn from them.

On the contrary.

The legal industry should be liberalized with more open competition from foreign lawyers and global law firms, so that we can clear out all the unprofitable mid sized firms and their boomer partners. Let the strongest firms either up their game or merge with int'l players. Survival of the fittest and let the market sort out the rest.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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Actually i second this, despite his broken English

Hi forumers, im in Big4 as a 2 PQE assoc. In my conversations with my oxbridge friends who are now in int’ll firms in SG, i feel like they demean the work we do as “sweatshop” / “peanut pay”. Im honestly perfectly fine with how much i earn and the nature of the work i’m doing. Anyone else feels this way?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi forumers, im in Big4 as a 2 PQE assoc. In my conversations with my oxbridge friends who are now in int’ll firms in SG, i feel like they demean the work we do as “sweatshop” / “peanut pay”. Im honestly perfectly fine with how much i earn and the nature of the work i’m doing. Anyone else feels this way?

You have big mad at small pee pee? Why? Is fact

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi forumers, im in Big4 as a 2 PQE assoc. In my conversations with my oxbridge friends who are now in int’ll firms in SG, i feel like they demean the work we do as “sweatshop” / “peanut pay”. Im honestly perfectly fine with how much i earn and the nature of the work i’m doing. Anyone else feels this way?

Every runs their own race in the end, why compare yourself with your friends? Let them have their fun, they are obviously proud (likely even a little arrogant) of where they ended up so let them be.

If you're happy you're happy. If you always compare with others, there's always going to be someone earning more or having a better job than you.

On their end, while they can ****-talk you all they want, that's just to make them feel better that they are not first class, or in the topmost firms in UK.

Honestly, nobody who was truly "top" would come back to SG when UK/HK have more opportunities lol.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Every runs their own race in the end, why compare yourself with your friends? Let them have their fun, they are obviously proud (likely even a little arrogant) of where they ended up so let them be.

If you're happy you're happy. If you always compare with others, there's always going to be someone earning more or having a better job than you.

On their end, while they can ****-talk you all they want, that's just to make them feel better that they are not first class, or in the topmost firms in UK.

Honestly, nobody who was truly "top" would come back to SG when UK/HK have more opportunities lol.

If I was you, would just friend them. Next time they partner in white shoe, and you have 15 Pqe in local firm, they can take you in. No need feel sad or anything.

Just laugh at the smaller pp of chinatown lawyers if it makes u feel better lor.

Law is a toxic industry obsessed with prestige. Its up to you to perpetuate it or break the cycle and free urself.

Or leave private prac for in-house which is comparatively less toxic.

U can't change how others behave. What u can change is how you deal with it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Firms try to scare you into not leaving because it's hard for them to find trainees (especially the smaller firms). However, remember that you should do what's best for you, the same way that the firm will do what's best for them.

The concept of "Burning bridges" is complete nonsense, most lawyers know the legal fraternity is rather small, and they'd rather have a happy junior lawyer who sings their praises than make an enemy for nothing (since if you asked to leave, you're leaving whether or not you get their blessing).

Just remember, they may threaten you with the TC contract or some break-clause term (i.e. penalty clauses for leaving), but most (if not all) of the stuff in such employment/TC contracts are not enforceable, so you don't need to worry.

However, when you leave, be respectful, tell them you want to go to this other firm because of xxx or yyy reasons (that your current firm can't fulfil) and thank them.

This is especially important if you want to count the currently performed period (for example if you already did 2 out of 6 mths) in your TC, as you need to ask the current TC firm to sign off. Similarly, if you want to count certain work performed (for your TC checklist), you need to ask the firm to sign off.

Obviously, if you don't intend to use any TC period/work performed from your previous firm, you can just leave without much issue.

Not OP- how about internally within the firm? I’m in corp now looking to transfer to liti… can’t stand the corp life

Originally Posted by Unregistered

On the contrary.

The legal industry should be liberalized with more open competition from foreign lawyers and global law firms, so that we can clear out all the unprofitable mid sized firms and their boomer partners. Let the strongest firms either up their game or merge with int'l players. Survival of the fittest and let the market sort out the rest.

I'm from Aus I second this.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Tell that to the new law soc president whos been doing nothing but sh!tp0sting on linkedin since he got his appointment.

Hope they not only make the bar stricter but also actually delist more schools. I rather go to a doctor from a reputable university, thank you very much.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not OP- how about internally within the firm? I’m in corp now looking to transfer to liti… can’t stand the corp life

You can always try, but the amount of ppl who can internally transfer is low. If you're a good worker, your boss will want to keep you in their dept. They'll only recommend you if you're (a) a problem worker, or (b) on very good terms with them and have expressed strong interest in the other field (which then begs the question what you're doing at their dept at all).

Most people take the opportunity to jump out to a diff firm, fresh start fresh firm, instead of begging for a chance to change (and hoping you catch your bosses at a time where there is an oversupply in your dept, combined with a demand for NQ or inexperienced lawyers in another dept.