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Old 04-12-2021, 11:22 PM
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When the bar exams become more difficult, X% of people would fail anyway.
Rather than make it difficult which really increases the stress level for everyone, marking it on a bell curve to allow (100-X)% of people to pass makes the most sense
Honestly, how is your suggestion any different from the soon-to-be implemented scheme?

A Rose by any other name is still a Rose. Sh*t by any other name is still Sh*t.

It's like how the Part A bar exam consistently fails the bottom 30-40% each year. If the bar examiners think too many people failed, they can just adjust the pass mark (which they have done).

You can call it a bell curve or making the bar "stricter", the end result is that the predetermined % of people will pass anyway.

Ipso Facto, they aren't going to keep to a 50/100 pass mark if 90% of the people fail.

Your suggestion will make no practical difference. In fact, making the exam harder, while not officially limiting the number of passes, makes people more inclined to band together and help each other pass. On the other hand, your suggestion makes it "harder" for everyone, who will perceive their classmates as enemies they must kick down to maintain the bell curve. Knowing that they need to "beat" 50% of the students will likely make everyone even more stressed, and push the passing mark higher than it currently is.

And a particular gifted year will find itself having a particularly high passing mark. Imagine passing on 30/100 because you had stupid year-mates, only to find that the next batch had to attain 80/100.

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Just work in any transactional team and apply lol. They are desperate for associates right now.
I haven't seen anyone moving to NYC from here. Is that common?

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I haven't seen anyone moving to NYC from here. Is that common?
Take any top 20 US uni llm and you can generally move over. You may not get a white shoe unless you take a top 6 uni though lol.

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I haven't seen anyone moving to NYC from here. Is that common?
It's not common at all simply because there is more to life than a salary. There are quite a few SG-based associates who receive offers to practise in London or NY but don't take it simply because they dont want to uproot their entire lives to move to a foreign city where they dont know anyone. The occasional associate does do so, but usually does so temporarily as a CV boost or it's because they've always wanted to work overseas.

Hong Kong is more common because (1) it's more culturally similar to SG and (2) it's closer so it doesn't feel as large of a move.
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Honestly, how is your suggestion any different from the soon-to-be implemented scheme?

A Rose by any other name is still a Rose. Sh*t by any other name is still Sh*t.

It's like how the Part A bar exam consistently fails the bottom 30-40% each year. If the bar examiners think too many people failed, they can just adjust the pass mark (which they have done).

You can call it a bell curve or making the bar "stricter", the end result is that the predetermined % of people will pass anyway.

Ipso Facto, they aren't going to keep to a 50/100 pass mark if 90% of the people fail.

Your suggestion will make no practical difference. In fact, making the exam harder, while not officially limiting the number of passes, makes people more inclined to band together and help each other pass. On the other hand, your suggestion makes it "harder" for everyone, who will perceive their classmates as enemies they must kick down to maintain the bell curve. Knowing that they need to "beat" 50% of the students will likely make everyone even more stressed, and push the passing mark higher than it currently is.

And a particular gifted year will find itself having a particularly high passing mark. Imagine passing on 30/100 because you had stupid year-mates, only to find that the next batch had to attain 80/100.
Are you a foreign grad? NUS and SMU already mark on bell-curve so what you talking??
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Are you a foreign grad? NUS and SMU already mark on bell-curve so what you talking??
Obv the poster is a foreign grad. Spent 3 years of their lives coasting on easy peasy UK law curriculum that's taught like an arts and humans degrees. Doesn't understand what grading on a curve is. Suddenly shocked that law actually requires you to put in some intellectual hard work to pass.

Meanwhile NUS and SMU students alr slogging it out in hunger games against their batchmates for the past 4 years.
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NUS law > SMU law
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Obv the poster is a foreign grad. Spent 3 years of their lives coasting on easy peasy UK law curriculum that's taught like an arts and humans degrees. Doesn't understand what grading on a curve is. Suddenly shocked that law actually requires you to put in some intellectual hard work to pass.

Meanwhile NUS and SMU students alr slogging it out in hunger games against their batchmates for the past 4 years.
Exactly… it’s squid game for 4 years except when you go on exchange…
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NUS law > SMU law
I second this.
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Are you all trying to imply that art/humanities degrees are inferior? Who do you think you are?
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