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Old 15-10-2021, 04:39 PM
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if you had the grades you wouldn't have to ask

nobody needs to ask which premier league team can afford to pay more and has the best training
What kind of stupid analogy is this? I'm asking which disputes firm has better training + pay outside of Big 4 for a prospective NQ. The only two places I know that pay more:

Baker - Disputes training is not the best

Cavenagh - Have to go through 3 corp seats, training is not the best, 3 of their liti SAs have left for Oon and Bazul.

Instead of acting as if you're royalty and saying "if you had the grades you wouldn't have to ask", why not answer properly? Unless, in your own words, you dont know (because you dont have the grades).

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Obviously it’s the dispute reso / int’ll arbi practices in MC and WS firms.

They earn alot, and get good training

Hmm, OP here... from my conversation with those in WS/MC intl arbi practices (those without a local arm) e.g HSF, KS - the training isnt very holistic per se - you're stuck doing leg work and they don't bother grooming you for partnership, even if you're capable.

In any case, I was asking more for a prospective NQ - those practices dont offer positions to NQs

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I am still unsure whether Man U or Liverpool has better training...
Get lost. NUS is the best

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What kind of stupid analogy is this? I'm asking which disputes firm has better training + pay outside of Big 4 for a prospective NQ. The only two places I know that pay more:

Baker - Disputes training is not the best

Cavenagh - Have to go through 3 corp seats, training is not the best, 3 of their liti SAs have left for Oon and Bazul.

Instead of acting as if you're royalty and saying "if you had the grades you wouldn't have to ask", why not answer properly? Unless, in your own words, you dont know (because you dont have the grades).
Baker disputes is very decent. It's a good bunch and they have been on a streak of high profile matters in recent years. Also good sub speciality practices like construction and Insolvency/restructuring.

CC a bit more political, and as you go further up, less prospects for progression.
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What kind of stupid analogy is this? I'm asking which disputes firm has better training + pay outside of Big 4 for a prospective NQ. The only two places I know that pay more:

Baker - Disputes training is not the best

Cavenagh - Have to go through 3 corp seats, training is not the best, 3 of their liti SAs have left for Oon and Bazul.

Instead of acting as if you're royalty and saying "if you had the grades you wouldn't have to ask", why not answer properly? Unless, in your own words, you dont know (because you dont have the grades).
The answer then is clearly Oon and Bazul #supportlocal
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Old 15-10-2021, 05:40 PM
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Baker disputes is very decent. It's a good bunch and they have been on a streak of high profile matters in recent years. Also good sub speciality practices like construction and Insolvency/restructuring.

CC a bit more political, and as you go further up, less prospects for progression.
Baker disputes is a joke

it's easier to be a manager at macdonalds than les amis
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Those ppl upset w law firms who have slighted them should try n find ways by connecting with similar minded ppl (on LinkedIn) and then ranting privately over beer and whiskey.

It’s better and more therapeutic
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1. "In other words, there is no way that you, as a SG qualified lawyer, are getting into a MC firm before you hit 2 PQE, and after that you will be paid on the UK NQ scale."

false, cc offers sg qualification training contracts to local students. their trainees join the firm's singapore office straight from law school and they are paid on the international scale from day one. source: s://careers.cliffordchance.com/apac/locations/singapore.html

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(a) "The SG training period is 6 months." false, the batch of students who just signed their tcs this month will have to train for a year. this change was announced in 2018. keep up with industry please

(b) cc trainees get a bonus in their second year of training too. if you want to count bonus, the correct calculation is:

baker's pay for initial 2 years: 2.5k x 12 (training period period to get qualified) + 8.5k x 14 (including 2 months bonus) = 149k (average of 6.2k per month)

cc's pay for initial 2 years: 6k x 12 (training period period to get qualified) + at least 7.5k x 14 (including 2 months bonus)= at least 177k (average of at least 7.3k per month)

"You can see that the [cc] lawyer usually makes significantly more up to this point."
Have the Baker white knights accepted defeat? Will they be issuing an apology?
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Get lost. NUS is the best
NUS no football lah
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Have the Baker white knights accepted defeat? Will they be issuing an apology?
Sry sry Baker is the best
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