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Old 21-10-2020, 08:37 PM
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Prospective trainee here. If I choose to train in family law (due to passion, interest etc) and realise that itís not my cup of tea, what are the exit options? Assuming that Iíll be exposed to contested divorce cases.
People don't want to do fam/crim for a reason - which is that it's hard to jump and generally pays less. High net worth divorces won't come to you - and the type of criminals you typically defend generally aren't rich.

Depending on your grades and work experience (at least 2.1), you can try to lateral into AGC crim department, or Minlaw (family) type roles.

Otherwise, you will end up stuck in gen lit. It's not going to be so easy to move around as a gen lit (from what I assume is a small fam law firm). If you're serious, just reach out to any fam law practitioners, I find they are typically nice enough to respond.



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NQ corp trainee who didnt get retained. Managed to secure an in house role but am wondering if that's a career suicide? am keen to move back into practice but having a hard time looking for corp NQ openings now and am afraid gen liti roles isnt that transferrable to corp either.

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NQ corp trainee who didnt get retained. Managed to secure an in house role but am wondering if that's a career suicide? am keen to move back into practice but having a hard time looking for corp NQ openings now and am afraid gen liti roles isnt that transferrable to corp either.
fk litigation. source: liti lolyer. thank you that is all.

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fk litigation. source: liti lolyer. thank you that is all.
What about litigation in a specific area (ie constructions or restructuring) in an international firm (ie baker, Clyde)? What are the exit options and if one goes into this route are they stuck in the same position as those in general liti?

Appreciate some valuable insights regarding this. Many thanks.
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People don't want to do fam/crim for a reason - which is that it's hard to jump and generally pays less. High net worth divorces won't come to you - and the type of criminals you typically defend generally aren't rich.

Depending on your grades and work experience (at least 2.1), you can try to lateral into AGC crim department, or Minlaw (family) type roles.

Otherwise, you will end up stuck in gen lit. It's not going to be so easy to move around as a gen lit (from what I assume is a small fam law firm). If you're serious, just reach out to any fam law practitioners, I find they are typically nice enough to respond.
Thanks so much for the advise.
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Old 21-10-2020, 11:23 PM
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How is it like working at Tito Issac? Working hours? Is the pay good for NQ?
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What about litigation in a specific area (ie constructions or restructuring) in an international firm (ie baker, Clyde)? What are the exit options and if one goes into this route are they stuck in the same position as those in general liti?

Appreciate some valuable insights regarding this. Many thanks.
is doing construction law good?
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is doing construction law good?
It's a big area. A lot of work to go around. A lot of money in the right teams.

Long hours, shitty bosses and difficult to get promotions in the prominent firms. The few known people are all still quite young and aren't leaving anything soon. The mid-small size firms require sai kang warriors who can take a lot of ****.

It's easier to make partner if you specialize in a different area of law... but i've always found the people to be interesting and the work rewarding. I enjoy it even though I've been doing this for about 6 years and haven't made partner yet.

To each his own.
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It's a big area. A lot of work to go around. A lot of money in the right teams.

Long hours, shitty bosses and difficult to get promotions in the prominent firms. The few known people are all still quite young and aren't leaving anything soon. The mid-small size firms require sai kang warriors who can take a lot of ****.

It's easier to make partner if you specialize in a different area of law... but i've always found the people to be interesting and the work rewarding. I enjoy it even though I've been doing this for about 6 years and haven't made partner yet.

To each his own.
Like all things, luck and timing can play a huge factor too. I know some who make partner in a Tier 1 construction team at 6 yrs PQE
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Like all things, luck and timing can play a huge factor too. I know some who make partner in a Tier 1 construction team at 6 yrs PQE
The exception, not the norm.

I think my point really is that there are faster and easier ways to make a name/a lot of money for yourself (if that is the intention). Think about the 3pqes setting up on their own... the assocs in big firms who happen to be on a single famous ipo... the ridiculous risk-takers offering wills+lpas at $99 a pop... the religious who use their religion like a marketing ploy.

In comparison, the construction path is long and tiresome. There are no shortcuts. You'll get there eventually (my thoughts anyway, it's really just a matter of time if you're decent), but you need to be patient and get through all the bullshit first.
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