Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

why would you do that?

Cos I heard the culture in that particular MC is horrible.
But now I regret.

Is it difficult to make the switch from big 4 general liti to intl firms?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I had a 15k offer to join a magic circle at 2pqe.
I turned it down to remain in the B4. Am I stupid?

Yes. What is your IQ?

Lol.....

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is that a cynical yes? Can't read tone over the internet...

Thanks in advance guys.

No bro I just can't type less than X characters so I had to use dots.

This sounds correct based on what I hear. For Avg salary. Still more than SG law.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes. What is your IQ?

Lol.....

OP here. What if the culture causes you to have ptsd?
Or the people in that team rarely last more than 6-12 months. Isn’t that a red flag in itself?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyway unlike medicine where it’ll remain super elite for a number of years,
Just note that there seems to be a shifting focus for law.

Look at the recent candidates fielded in for Elections.
It’s more inclusive these days.
People from the delisted unis are making it to stand for elections.
People who don’t do as well in law school are also making it.
So think twice before dissing delisted.
The stereotypes of the typical lawyer from RGS, RI, NUS, etc, is slowly dwindling

Look, the world is changing in very rapid manners. Even for medicine, you see doctors from across different universities. Medicine is slightly more exclusive than other professionals mainly because it takes a much longer year for them to get qualified.

The world is moving in different ways now and organisations are trying to adapt. Hence, organisations are looking for different skill sets other than your academic background. If you want to progress accordingly, you need to get out of your stereotypical mindsets.

Look at Fintech where its the up and coming highly-prized industry - hirers from these firms don't care much about where you came from, your academic background or who you are. They care more about what you can actually offer (i.e look at the number of unicorns or silicon valley companies where they hire school dropouts just because they can code for 18 hours a day and have the necessary technical skills). Even for VC firms, they can literally hire you just because you are able to play up their vision and know how to market yourself. Stanford graduates aside, these VC firms also look for non-Stanford graduates who know the necessary soft skills they are looking for.

Law firms have to adapt too. Your academic background is still very important but it is not everything especially during this time and age. Always adapt and be willing to learn because that is usually what partners or even people in bigger or more advanced organisations are looking for. People in this forum need to stop comparing about universities and spend their time learning new skills and think about how they can improve themselves. If you don't, I am confident to say that you will very easily be replaced by people who do not come from your typical RI-NUS law background. Stop complaining life is unfair just because there are a diversity of people taking up your jobs.

Source: Your typical RI-NUS law graduate who left the legal industry.

TL;DR The world is changing. Law firms need to adapt too. Academic backgrounds and traditional stereotypes are still necessary but the willingness to adapt, learn and be open-minded is more important. Grow up if you wish to be progressive.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

OP here. What if the culture causes you to have ptsd?
Or the people in that team rarely last more than 6-12 months. Isn’t that a red flag in itself?

That's still a lot of money bro

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Source: Your typical RI-NUS law graduate who left the legal industry.

TL;DR The world is changing. Law firms need to adapt too. Academic backgrounds and traditional stereotypes are still necessary but the willingness to adapt, learn and be open-minded is more important. Grow up if you wish to be progressive.

Can you share more what did you do after leaving the legal industry? I need ideas too.
Same profile probably your junior and I am thinking of leaving. Leaving totally as in not going to do anything ancillary to law.

hi can anyone advice whats the pay for big4 RLT and mid size RLT? do b4 nd mid size calculate PQE differently?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That's still a lot of money bro

Take it from someone who's been through it -> The money being the only thing that matters is what everyone who hasn't had the job before thinks.

When you're paying 20k a month but still having to rehire junior lawyers every 8 - 12 months, do you really think it's still just "all about the money" for those people? They got the salary, lived the life, and realised it wasn't worth it. For those that can stick it out, good for them.

But my point is, don't be so quick to call him an idiot. In many ways, it could have been the right choice. But he'll never know for sure because we can't live two lives.