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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thank you you hit the nail on the head haha I was looking at LSE UCL or KCL, think the rest may not be worth it if I already have a TC. What would UCL accept? And what is considered a bare/middling/high 2:1?

I hope you’re from SMU. There’s just not enough NUS law grads heading to LSE for LSE to even indicate country specific info for NUS.

Below lifted from LSE website:
“Taught master's programmes

To be considered for admission to a taught master’s programme, we would normally require a bachelor’s (honours) degree from a highly regarded institution. From Singapore Management University and Singapore University of Technology and Design, we would normally require a bachelor’s degree. We would normally require a 2:1, a GPA of 3.5/4 or CAP of 4/5.“

uk schs don't grade on bell curve iirc

>70 is fch

60 - 69 is 2:1

50 - 59 is 2:2

40 - 49 is 3rd (yes failure is below 40)

its generally fixed on that scale, how well u do isnt dependent on how smart or unsmart ur batchmates are

side note also hence why local grads see uk grads no up

but i dont think uk unis are gonna look too hard into how u obtained a 2:1, its not like u can miti by saying u got graded on bell curve. on the face of the transcript printed liao

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Cambridge minimum first class. Strict rule. But most people have other subject prizes as well. Same for Oxford. They are indeed the creme de la creme of law.

Harvard references are very important. Traditionally only FCH although have seen exceptions though very very rare for a non FCH to even qualify for Harvard.

Cambridge understands that there are many variations in grading. For instance one school may award only 1% first class.
So their rule is more fair. Minimum requirement is top 10% of the cohort.
But in practice only the top 5% that will be even considered for admission.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I hope you’re from SMU. There’s just not enough NUS law grads heading to LSE for LSE to even indicate country specific info for NUS.

Below lifted from LSE website:
“Taught master's programmes

To be considered for admission to a taught master’s programme, we would normally require a bachelor’s (honours) degree from a highly regarded institution. From Singapore Management University and Singapore University of Technology and Design, we would normally require a bachelor’s degree. We would normally require a 2:1, a GPA of 3.5/4 or CAP of 4/5.“

Think this is untrue sorry, they specifically mention SMU and SUTD because they don't follow the British system of honours, they don't have the bachelor's (honours) thing, that's why they say they require a bachelor's (honours) degree from a highly regarded institution, but for SMU and SUTD they only require a bachelor's degree. LSE has quite a number of NUS graduates, don't think they would be so blur.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

jo Teo say employers cannot mandate that applicants disclose their last drawn

does anyone have experience with how refusing to disclose your last drawn actually goes down? ( i dont think employers ever could mandate it, she was just clarifying)

don't want to accept a lowball because times are bad and have it follow me for the rest of my life

interested to know too. Some firms do really just give you a uplift based on your last drawn which is quite shitty when you find out someone else your batch moving from an mc gets paid more than you.

Can quote jo teo when they ask I guess. If not give a roughly inflated figure or your expectation

Originally Posted by Unregistered

uk schs don't grade on bell curve iirc

>70 is fch

60 - 69 is 2:1

50 - 59 is 2:2

40 - 49 is 3rd (yes failure is below 40)

its generally fixed on that scale, how well u do isnt dependent on how smart or unsmart ur batchmates are

side note also hence why local grads see uk grads no up

but i dont think uk unis are gonna look too hard into how u obtained a 2:1, its not like u can miti by saying u got graded on bell curve. on the face of the transcript printed liao

You sound pretty salty about the Bell Curve. Just pray to the Bell Curve God and it may not award you a 2:2 (isn't this a 50-50 chance?)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

uk schs don't grade on bell curve iirc

>70 is fch

60 - 69 is 2:1

50 - 59 is 2:2

40 - 49 is 3rd (yes failure is below 40)

its generally fixed on that scale, how well u do isnt dependent on how smart or unsmart ur batchmates are

side note also hence why local grads see uk grads no up

but i dont think uk unis are gonna look too hard into how u obtained a 2:1, its not like u can miti by saying u got graded on bell curve. on the face of the transcript printed liao

I don't think OP is worrying about his/her 2:1, OP seems to just be asking in a conditional offer from these UK unis what will they require you to graduate with since 2:1 is a broad category and CAP 4/5 for NUS is considered a high 2:1, so which will they ask you to graduate with in an offer. Am assuming OP is from NUS because SMU has no 2:1.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

interested to know too. Some firms do really just give you a uplift based on your last drawn which is quite shitty when you find out someone else your batch moving from an mc gets paid more than you.

Can quote jo teo when they ask I guess. If not give a roughly inflated figure or your expectation

Wouldn't giving an inflated figure be seriously problematic (ethically/legally)? Saying "I don't want to disclose that information" is quite different from saying "It was $X" when it wasn't $X. Also, I think some places (not sure if in the legal industry or not) have a practice of going so far as to ask for your payslip.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't think OP is worrying about his/her 2:1, OP seems to just be asking in a conditional offer from these UK unis what will they require you to graduate with since 2:1 is a broad category and CAP 4/5 for NUS is considered a high 2:1, so which will they ask you to graduate with in an offer. Am assuming OP is from NUS because SMU has no 2:1.

Didn’t go to LSE/UCL/KCL.
But Oxbridge is clear, top 5% of cohort.
Your professors will be required to state your ranking

Originally Posted by Unregistered

interested to know too. Some firms do really just give you a uplift based on your last drawn which is quite shitty when you find out someone else your batch moving from an mc gets paid more than you.

Can quote jo teo when they ask I guess. If not give a roughly inflated figure or your expectation

Unless you mean when they ask you "What was your last drawn?", you reply with "I am expecting/looking at $X." But the sharp will catch that you didn't quite answer the question and may ask it again, bringing us back to having to deal with how to answer/not answer the question.