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Old 17-06-2020, 02:04 AM
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I know R&T has an appeals practice group do any other firms have an equivalent? Do they really only do appeals or is it more of a this is what we're known for but we do trials too? Is it considered more prestigious/high calibre to be in the appeals team or do people see it as simply different skill sets? I think US lawyers specialize along this appeals/trials line and there isn't really a prestige difference you could be a damned good trial attorney and wouldn't be passed on in favor of an appeals lawyer but that could be due to their presence of juries at the trial level

Don't think other firms have an equivalent.

It was formed years ago for that purpose, but I don't think that's the case anymore. I think can consider it a commercial litigation team, with some CA stuff.



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You come across as being super desperate at the moment.
This comment is not meant to be an insult. Its just that people generally make terrible decisions when faced with desperation.

Not getting into NUS Law does not equate to an academic failing. Many successful lawyers and in house counsels and professors have graduated from universities other than NUS Law. There is even a judge who graduated from Flinders - i didn't even know such a university existed until i appeared before said judge and googled him. Our civil procedure practitioners books are written by a graduate from nottingham university.

My point being. You are not yet at death's door. You still have a year to get a training contract - it is not too late to make a decision as to your future at that time. Focus on sending out applications for TCs. Send out a few everyday. Send out to every single law firm you can find on google - it's what i did. Be tenacious. Be persistent.

Do not be desperate.

A masters is not worth it. Don't waste your parents hard earned money on another year of no guarantees.
Why do you have to send out so many applications given your stellar job prospects being an overseas graduate?

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I know R&T has an appeals practice group do any other firms have an equivalent? Do they really only do appeals or is it more of a this is what we're known for but we do trials too? Is it considered more prestigious/high calibre to be in the appeals team or do people see it as simply different skill sets? I think US lawyers specialize along this appeals/trials line and there isn't really a prestige difference you could be a damned good trial attorney and wouldn't be passed on in favor of an appeals lawyer but that could be due to their presence of juries at the trial level
That team only hires from the JLC pool.
If you were not even a JLC before or have an oxford BCL, you stand zero chance

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Old 17-06-2020, 05:46 AM
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Lol nice troll. I am a girl btw. I said earlier there is absolutely 0 reason to believe that a moron *graduated from* Harvard or *got into Harvard by merit*. This has nothing to do with 'dissing... Harvard'. Which part of his excellent (note the sarcasm) critical reasoning skills suggests he *graduated* from Harvard.

You're clearly trying to make a reference to an imaginary person. I don't believe the Harvard Graduate bloodline will be sullied by some moron who cited selective bias and then admits he doesn't know what selective bias is
Lol. Are you that argumentative in real life?
Anyway a Harvard grad whether his/her first degree is from NUS or other universities is set for life. Itís a waste of time deciding if that Harvard grad is a imaginary person, a sham, a cloak or a facade. Focus on more important things, like your own well-being, whether youíre being financially enriched since the lifespan in law is pretty short (by 40 itís either partnership or leave the profession and fade into oblivion).
All the best!
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Old 17-06-2020, 08:32 AM
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Lol. Are you that argumentative in real life?
Anyway a Harvard grad whether his/her first degree is from NUS or other universities is set for life. Itís a waste of time deciding if that Harvard grad is a imaginary person, a sham, a cloak or a facade. Focus on more important things, like your own well-being, whether youíre being financially enriched since the lifespan in law is pretty short (by 40 itís either partnership or leave the profession and fade into oblivion).
All the best!
I oso graduated from Harvard summer school for botany during my school term at NUS where I didn't get a first. I Havard grad like Tyra Banks and Donald Trump. Now can tell clients.

#setforlife #merit

Thanks for your well wishes, appreciate it. You seem like a nice person, I shall stop asking whether your IQ objectively represents your background since it raises questions about how imaginary OP got into Harvard.
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I oso graduated from Harvard summer school for botany during my school term at NUS where I didn't get a first. I Havard grad like Tyra Banks and Donald Trump. Now can tell clients.

#setforlife #merit

Thanks for your well wishes, appreciate it. You seem like a nice person, I shall stop asking whether your IQ objectively represents your background since it raises questions about how imaginary OP got into Harvard.
'Harvard grad': hi

Client: hi where did u study at

'Harvard grad': im from NUS and oso a harvard grad

Client: wow u set for lyf

'Harvard grad': ya not lying i studied botany

Client: no worries it ties in with my love for plants. How u get in ah

'Harvard grad': connections through legacy

Client: great sounds meritorious to me. Show me ur harvard degree

'Harvard grad': here are my summer school results
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Old 17-06-2020, 09:13 AM
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'Harvard grad': hi

Client: hi where did u study at

'Harvard grad': im from NUS and oso a harvard grad

Client: wow u set for lyf

'Harvard grad': ya not lying i studied botany

Client: no worries it ties in with my love for plants. How u get in ah

'Harvard grad': connections through legacy

Client: great sounds meritorious to me. Show me ur harvard degree

'Harvard grad': here are my summer school results
This is why there is a need for those laughing-crying emojis.
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I know R&T has an appeals practice group do any other firms have an equivalent? Do they really only do appeals or is it more of a this is what we're known for but we do trials too? Is it considered more prestigious/high calibre to be in the appeals team or do people see it as simply different skill sets? I think US lawyers specialize along this appeals/trials line and there isn't really a prestige difference you could be a damned good trial attorney and wouldn't be passed on in favor of an appeals lawyer but that could be due to their presence of juries at the trial level
I think that here, going for SGCA stuff mostly means your clients can afford it. There's a certain kind of prestige attached to it but I don't think it necessarily means you're a super lawyer who dunks all over "trial" lawyers. Most litigation folks will do both trial and appeals work, especially since you can have trials in the lower courts that end up in High Court appeals etc.

I suspect that actually having a plate full of matters that go to trial will stand you in better stead than a bunch of SGCA matters. SGCA generally involves a lot of prep work/written work, but your day in court is comparatively brief, whereas trials can go on for ages. And for the firm, at least, the real metric of your success is what you bring in, and you can generally bill full time costs for trials, so a trial might be better for your numbers at the end of the day than an SGCA matter.
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This is why there is a need for those laughing-crying emojis.
I can empathy
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i wonder if the associates in the more prestigious teams get paid better in terms of monthly salary. for example the assocs in R&T's appeals and issues team
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