Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Any thoughts on Oon & Bazul's disputes practice?

Good pay comparable to big 4 but you will have to work like a dog

cant be worse than working in the big 4 right..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Good pay comparable to big 4 but you will have to work like a dog

What about in terms of mentorship / guidance?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What about in terms of mentorship / guidance?

you joking right

what “mentorship” “guidance” do you expect from this toxic industry?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What about in terms of mentorship / guidance?

What's your style? Asking about mentorship and guidance is kinda pointless in a vacuum.

An earlier post was talking about "Fit", and I think that's correct. Give you world's best lawyer but no fit, mentorship won't work out.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's your style? Asking about mentorship and guidance is kinda pointless in a vacuum.

An earlier post was talking about "Fit", and I think that's correct. Give you world's best lawyer but no fit, mentorship won't work out.

I have actually had good mentors when I was training at a big 4. No handholding and we were expected to be self-reliant but at least they were there when I needed help.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's your style? Asking about mentorship and guidance is kinda pointless in a vacuum.

An earlier post was talking about "Fit", and I think that's correct. Give you world's best lawyer but no fit, mentorship won't work out.

Yeah I'm the OP on that. Good mentors are hard to find, and good means you must at the very least fit for people to like and mentor you.

So when you say retention is not about merit - sometimes this is true. I can give you a Cambridge double first who wins cases by the sheer power of research but if he does not fit, I cannot imagine him being retained.

Some lawyers are more chin chye about fit than others i.e. you do your job can alr. Others more mindful.

The secret to finding a job/getting retained, all things aside, is fit. The boss is likely to retain someone who they can work with and they like working with, not someone who they cannot stand.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have actually had good mentors when I was training at a big 4. No handholding and we were expected to be self-reliant but at least they were there when I needed help.

Which team

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You did a finance role before moving to your current offshore? What was that and why didn't you stay on?

Won't give more more details about the role because it would probably be sufficient to identify me.

I didn't stay on because the pay isn't better than lawyering and there is more instability.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have actually had good mentors when I was training at a big 4. No handholding and we were expected to be self-reliant but at least they were there when I needed help.

Agree. Feels like B4 there are enough people around that you'll eventually find someone who can help you at least a bit.

Whereas small firm, if you're in the office you're fighting fire, if you're not fighting fire you won't be in the office.