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Old 15-06-2020, 11:11 AM
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Agree. I don't quite agree with delisting schools either but I think there's some truth in MinLaw/SYT saying what she says. The level of intellectual rigour across the board is different. There are always exceptional people that transcend the sorting functions of school label but those are very very rare. This is a general statement.

I have not met a NUS 2.1 being outdone by a delisted UK FCH.

I know this is quite a controversial thing to say, but I don't mean to offend anyone. Just fax.
This is just selection bias. Lots of capable delisted UK FCH grads end up working in London. Theyíre smart enough to see that the lifestyle/career prospects are just that much better there compared to SG law firms. I daresay Iíve seen plenty who have outdone even NUS FCH in that regard.

I know this is quite a controversial thing to say, but I donít mean to offend anyone. Just fax.

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Old 15-06-2020, 11:39 AM
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Heard Straits didn't retain anyone and imposed a pay cut.
I dunno about pay cut, you're right about no retention last cycle.

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Old 15-06-2020, 11:41 AM
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You'll be surprised how many people can do 2000 billable hours and still make time for other things. Unless you're crying/dying
I think billable hours recording varies lah. Some firms allow assocs to record all billable work done, and actual billings is the partner's problem. Others only allow recording of billable hours that are very likely to be actually billed, which means multiple layers of discounting, in order to show clients that their fee is very reasonable.

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Old 15-06-2020, 12:03 PM
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Thanks very useful.

As an aside, how do you guys tahan the hours and stress? Iím 2PQE and feel like quitting already.
lots of coffee and siam diu nights out
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This is just selection bias. Lots of capable delisted UK FCH grads end up working in London. Theyíre smart enough to see that the lifestyle/career prospects are just that much better there compared to SG law firms. I daresay Iíve seen plenty who have outdone even NUS FCH in that regard.

I know this is quite a controversial thing to say, but I donít mean to offend anyone. Just fax.
Nice originality there. However, NUS does not have a presence in London and therefore you have made a failed comparison with an example that is non-existent in a feeble attempt to protect your fragile ego.

Quite ironic that you call it selection bias.

Let me give you an example so you understand what selection bias is. Are Singaporeans rich? Are the average Singaporeans richer than the average guy from Country X? Yes.

Oh but I know many rich guys from Country X. Does that change the empirical fact that the average Singaporean is equivalent to the top 10% of Country X? Nope.

Why did you select the top 10% then? Selection bias.

Second. Do successful persons from a delisted school in Country X work in Country X? Yes. Let's take your assumption that working at Firm Y in Country X is an indicator of success. Is there a reason why persons from Country A do not work at Firm Y in Country X? Yes.

This is because they don't live there you moron
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Nice originality there. However, NUS does not have a presence in London and therefore you have made a failed comparison with an example that is non-existent in a feeble attempt to protect your fragile ego.

Quite ironic that you call it selection bias.

Let me give you an example so you understand what selection bias is. Are Singaporeans rich? Are the average Singaporeans richer than the average guy from Country X? Yes.

Oh but I know many rich guys from Country X. Does that change the empirical fact that the average Singaporean is equivalent to the top 10% of Country X? Nope.

Why did you select the top 10% then? Selection bias.

Second. Do successful persons from a delisted school in Country X work in Country X? Yes. Let's take your assumption that working at Firm Y in Country X is an indicator of success. Is there a reason why persons from Country A do not work at Firm Y in Country X? Yes.

This is because they don't live there you moron
Dude, ive got a first from Kings. Respect me.
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Old 15-06-2020, 12:43 PM
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Dude, ive got a first from Kings. Respect me.
O sorry lemme curtsy on my way out your Majesty
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Old 15-06-2020, 12:52 PM
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Nice originality there. However, NUS does not have a presence in London and therefore you have made a failed comparison with an example that is non-existent in a feeble attempt to protect your fragile ego.

Quite ironic that you call it selection bias.

Let me give you an example so you understand what selection bias is. Are Singaporeans rich? Are the average Singaporeans richer than the average guy from Country X? Yes.

Oh but I know many rich guys from Country X. Does that change the empirical fact that the average Singaporean is equivalent to the top 10% of Country X? Nope.

Why did you select the top 10% then? Selection bias.

Second. Do successful persons from a delisted school in Country X work in Country X? Yes. Let's take your assumption that working at Firm Y in Country X is an indicator of success. Is there a reason why persons from Country A do not work at Firm Y in Country X? Yes.

This is because they don't live there you moron
Yeah thatís why so many posters are asking whether itís better to study law in England rather than Singapore so that they donít end up in the selection bias like you mentioned.
Go overseas in an attempt to beat the odds rather than stay in Singapore and be part of selection bias.
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Old 15-06-2020, 01:02 PM
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Then don't post here? Go on legalcheek or rollonfriday or something, this is LAWYER SALARIES IN SINGAPORE. Asking local lawyer what its like to work in England, can you blame all the kukubird measuring that derails this thread

Why dont you go to the civil svc thread and ask what its like to work in HM Government in the UK. No wonder my boss keep bitching about new hires. Fking lawyer alr but English comprehension so goddamn awful
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Then don't post here? Go on legalcheek or rollonfriday or something, this is LAWYER SALARIES IN SINGAPORE. Asking local lawyer what its like to work in England, can you blame all the kukubird measuring that derails this thread

Why dont you go to the civil svc thread and ask what its like to work in HM Government in the UK. No wonder my boss keep bitching about new hires. Fking lawyer alr but English comprehension so goddamn awful
Hello. So many SG RI and HCI folks go on to England study law...
Whatís wrong with asking in this forum.
Some come back after few years working in London, they can share whether SG outfit of their international firm hold salary.

Civ service is a bad comparison. Cos not international.
Anyway you seem like a disgruntled dude.
Used to be like you. But left after making JP.
Life is a lot better, marriage and sanity preserved
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