Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How difficult is it for a B4 liti 1-2 PQE to move into an international? Will the work be relevant or useful at all? What other kinds of liti spin off practice areas should be considered like perhaps arbitration insolvency etc

arbitration experience can help. At that level though its probably down to how confident you are and how you can convince people of your analytical skills.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

List of "Internationals"

ASHURST ADTLAW
CLIFFORD CHANCE ASIA
CMS HOLBORN ASIA
HERBERT SMITH FREEHILLS PROLEGIS
INCE LAW ALLIANCE
NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT ASCENDANT
REED SMITH RESOURCE LAW ALLIANCE
STEPHENSON HARWOOD (SINGAPORE) ALLIANCE
WFW & WTL
BAKER & MCKENZIE.WONG & LEOW
CLYDE & CO CLASIS SINGAPORE PTE LTD
DUANE MORRIS & SELVAM LLP
HOGAN LOVELLS LEE & LEE
KENNEDYS LEGAL SOLUTIONS PTE LTD
PINSENT MASONS MPILLAY LLP
RPC PREMIER LAW PTE LTD
SIMMONS & SIMMONS JWS PTE. LTD.
MORGAN LEWIS STAMFORD LLC
BIRD BIRD ATMD LLP
RHTLAW TAYLOR WESSING LLP
K&L GATES STRAITS LAW LLC
EVERSHEDS HARRY ELIAS LLP
WITHERS KHATTARWONG LLP
DENTONS RODYK DAVIDSON LLP

How do these firms rank?

what a waste of bandwidth with people still talking about FCH and law school names

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nah a lawyer billing 2000 hours will not have time to differentiate honours classes across schools. Its like in law school, do you really care which school’s IP system is more rigorous?

An FCH or high 2:1 and CV gets you to the interview. That’s it.

You'll be surprised how many people can do 2000 billable hours and still make time for other things. Unless you're crying/dying

Originally Posted by Unregistered

what a waste of bandwidth with people still talking about FCH and law school names

What a waste of money to go to a degree mill

The sobering reality is that many fch at the internationals (the true internationals - if you’re in that league you automatically know what it means), won’t survive more than 2 years max.
These firms hire in troves but it’s a revolving door.
The people who leave (or has to leave) has nothing to do with capability, it has more to do with global hr numbers and resource allocation (things you don’t see unless you are at the EXCO level.

Anyway, just know that in 2 years time you may not even be in law.
It’s a revolving door.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The sobering reality is that many fch at the internationals (the true internationals - if you’re in that league you automatically know what it means), won’t survive more than 2 years max.
These firms hire in troves but it’s a revolving door.
The people who leave (or has to leave) has nothing to do with capability, it has more to do with global hr numbers and resource allocation (things you don’t see unless you are at the EXCO level.

Anyway, just know that in 2 years time you may not even be in law.
It’s a revolving door.

Thx good to know. Does my FLA count

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thx good to know. Does my FLA count

It’s very easy to gauge whether one is in a true international.
At 2pqe (Sg scale) you should be getting SGD10,500 gross and above.

Anyway, no point criticizing the fch.
Truth of the matter is that increasingly it’s going to be difficult for 2:2 to find a job.
There’s so many fch.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It’s very easy to gauge whether one is in a true international.
At 2pqe (Sg scale) you should be getting SGD10,500 gross and above.

Anyway, no point criticizing the fch.
Truth of the matter is that increasingly it’s going to be difficult for 2:2 to find a job.
There’s so many fch.

Lol what. No one is criticising the FCH from reputable places

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And RHT. 2 SCs one former well-respected JA. TRC, SLB. Problem with all you recent grads is you only hear about Big 4. There are excellent firms out there that should put you in good stead

I can confirm SLB is good. Former SLB Edmund Eng is now running his own outfit at Fullerton Chambers, he has a good pipeline of work if you're into disputes.

For FLA, K&L Gates Straits is also good. Did a matter opposite them. Was impressed by their work.

Advocatus is also another good local small/mid firm, if you're into disputes.