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Old 14-06-2020, 12:02 PM
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Thank you so much for this! I've been lurking around there for a while but this is the first post I feel I can really relate to. Junior Assoc at a mid firm here looking to ideally transition into a Big 4 once COVID gets better - everything you've described, including your previous experience at a smaller firm, hits home man.
My pleasure. I think I really had two maxims to thank, both from my TC mentor:

(1) Don't bring your ego to work. I've heard from senior lawyers that they're mainly motivated by ego, they want to outdo each other, you must be really competitive in litigation, etc, but maybe that's more at their level. As junior assocs, I think ego can make learning difficult, and learning's the most important thing you can be doing.

(2) Don't take correction personally. It can be very difficult, particularly when you know that your boss's good opinion can be essential to continued employment/retention/promotion, so every negative comment seems like a death sentence. But in my experience most of the time, the negativity comes from them being stressed and feeling like they've been let down by their team, and has more to do with them than you. Take the correction and do better. Of course, still have standards lah: don't put up with abuse.

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Old 14-06-2020, 12:17 PM
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The Assocs had always been subjected to local payscale even with the jv.
that's surprising

they have a number of Of Counsel, so I was under the impression they paid close to MC rates.

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Huh really? I thought anyone can get into big 4 quite easily. I expect many applicants for internationals or in house, but not big 4..
Lol is this supposed to be a joke

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I saw a post on LinkedIn that one of the big 4s is hiring for corp position. Has like 200 plus applicants. I give up.
I think you're referring to R&T's respective posts for corporate and dispute resolution (investigations) Associate. I notice that post has been a recurring post on LinkedIn for the past 1 year, and I think HR or whoever's in charge just probably forgot to disable the function.

I have had many friends (legal execs / those who did not get retained by their firms) who see it as a glimmer of hope - hence the 200+ applications EACH time the post gets re-posted.

But I highly doubt HR would view your application through LinkedIn given:

1. None of my friends (some even submitted each and every time the post comes up), got the notif from LinkedIn saying the poster had read their application.

2. HR is already dealing with more than sufficient applications going in through their recruitment email.
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that's surprising

they have a number of Of Counsel, so I was under the impression they paid close to MC rates.
If you're talking about EHE, I can (at the very least) confirm that the monthly salary for a NQ Associate is closer to salaries of mid-sized firms than Big 4. In fact, the monthly salary offered for NQ in 2019 isn't close Big 4's at all.

Source: Friend who was offered told me
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I think you're referring to R&T's respective posts for corporate and dispute resolution (investigations) Associate. I notice that post has been a recurring post on LinkedIn for the past 1 year, and I think HR or whoever's in charge just probably forgot to disable the function.
If that is the position that the inquirer was referring to, I applied for that position too previously, and got an interview. It wasn't what I expected.
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If that is the position that the inquirer was referring to, I applied for that position too previously, and got an interview. It wasn't what I expected.
Did u get accepted through the interview?
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If that is the position that the inquirer was referring to, I applied for that position too previously, and got an interview. It wasn't what I expected.
I am surprised HR would sift through 200 plus applications..
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If that is the position that the inquirer was referring to, I applied for that position too previously, and got an interview. It wasn't what I expected.
My questions are then whether:

1) the roles on that listing are up to date and whether those teams are still hiring
2) if there are already more than 200 plus applications on LinkedIn itself, how can an applicant standout? Most of us already come from the same schools, same backgrounds and same academic achievements (ie FCH)
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Lol is this supposed to be a joke
Probably some FLA unretained trainee
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