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Old 28-07-2018, 11:05 PM
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can never understand all the ah sia kia who go uk study but no uk friends

u all watch bbc sherlock listen to chrvches eat pret a mange etc sure got a lot in common, u all so angmoh alr but prefer to hang w ur own kind lol

or is it u all just see no up ppl who watch tw drama listen to jj lin eat hdb kopitiam, just want to feel superior only.
the brits are very cliquey. i did make a few brit friends, but it was largely the result of prolonged contact (exchange programme, or floormates). if you don't go clubbing, it's genuinely not easy.

it was easier to befriend other intls, be they from europe or hk or malaysia or elsewhere.

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1) As good as it may be in the Singapore market, its the equivalent of working in say Lee Hishammuddin Allen & Gledhill instead of A&G Singapore. Its always better to work where the shot callers are, especially for career progression and job security. E.g. in a financial downturn, do you think firm leaders will be more prepared to axe the lawyers a few doors down from them or those in a far flung (and most likely less profitable) office.

2) During your TC you might not be saving much more than in SG (largely due to housing costs - but do you really want to be living with your parents in SG until your early 30s?), but at NQ and above your salary will quickly outstrip those in SG. And if you can make it as partner at a top firm in London, your income will be astronomical compared to any SG firm.

3) Plenty of international people in London. Very cosmopolitan city.
1) your first point is very fair, i will take it under consideration

2) the tax rate is 40% for any income over 46k, and i don't really have any interest in staying in london long term + making partner as a singaporean is impossibly hard

3) true, but i'm kinda counting on it within the firm

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oh also, pret a manger sucks ass

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1) your first point is very fair, i will take it under consideration

2) the tax rate is 40% for any income over 46k, and i don't really have any interest in staying in london long term + making partner as a singaporean is impossibly hard

3) true, but i'm kinda counting on it within the firm
2) You have to look not just at tax rate but actual salary and salary progression. Assuming you're aiming for MC firms in London, NQ salary is ~£87k (disposable income of ~£57.3k after tax and national insurance). This grows at about £10k a year thereafter.

The equivalent in SG would be a Big4 salary of around ~$72k (~$54.8k after tax and CPF). From what I've heard, this increases by about $6k each year.

You can see that from the get-go your disposable income is already bigger in UK than it is in SG, and that it widens even more with each year you stay in UK. Granted, housing costs is a big-ticket item but it can be minimized by flat-sharing, staying in Zone 2 etc. Moreover, thanks to the conversion rate, any savings you make in the UK essentially doubles when you return to SG.

3) What do you think the large population of foreign professionals are doing in London if not working in the various firms.
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the brits are very cliquey. i did make a few brit friends, but it was largely the result of prolonged contact (exchange programme, or floormates). if you don't go clubbing, it's genuinely not easy.

it was easier to befriend other intls, be they from europe or hk or malaysia or elsewhere.
This is very true. It also doesn't help that most singaporeans are genuinely quite boring and Cookie cutter. As a starting point your average Brit views Singaporeans like how we view our poorer neighbours from some small-town kampong in Sarawak, ie slightly backwards and 'or biang'

Coupled with the fact that Singaporeans don't generally reach out across the aisle to make friends with them and dispel these notions. There's zero impetus for them to bother socialising
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Saw my law ex gf on tinder and CMB
Should I like her profile?
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2) You have to look not just at tax rate but actual salary and salary progression. Assuming you're aiming for MC firms in London, NQ salary is ~£87k (disposable income of ~£57.3k after tax and national insurance). This grows at about £10k a year thereafter.

The equivalent in SG would be a Big4 salary of around ~$72k (~$54.8k after tax and CPF). From what I've heard, this increases by about $6k each year.

You can see that from the get-go your disposable income is already bigger in UK than it is in SG, and that it widens even more with each year you stay in UK. Granted, housing costs is a big-ticket item but it can be minimized by flat-sharing, staying in Zone 2 etc. Moreover, thanks to the conversion rate, any savings you make in the UK essentially doubles when you return to SG.

3) What do you think the large population of foreign professionals are doing in London if not working in the various firms.
2) you're right i'm considering MC, at least for TC, but when you consider prices in light of Brexit + the impact Brexit is likely to have on many british legal sectors it's a lot less rosy + most importantly, Brexit will **** the pound crazy hard.

3) tbh out of all my work placements and all my firm dinners i've met exactly 3 non-Brits (2 associates 1 partner) so it's not great lul
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Saw my law ex gf on tinder and CMB
Should I like her profile?
Yes ur chance to get together again and make more law babies
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Yes ur chance to get together again and make more law babies
If that ex of mine would reach out to me and say she is sorry,
I would give her all my money and take her back
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i have a massive crush on this girl from part b

but she is so much older than me and totally look like she gonna be wearing pantsuits and womens charter advocate in a few years time

how?
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