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Old 18-01-2025, 03:58 PM
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What is the market rate for TC pay now?

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Old 18-01-2025, 04:45 PM
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What is the market rate for TC pay now?
did you not read the article on full blast on BT/SLW earlier this week?

singaporelawwatch.sg/Headlines/singapore-law-firms-raise-legal-trainee-allowances-to-make-up-for-new-year-long-practice-training-regime

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how is the shipping industry? should i tc at a shipping firm?

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Old 18-01-2025, 09:14 PM
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how is the shipping industry? should i tc at a shipping firm?
Very niche practice area but imo you absolutely need to work under a partner who is at least band 2 ranked in Chambers. Because specialising is a pretty big gamble and if you do specialise, you dam well make sure you're super good at it. So learning under the best in that particular sector is quite important. If you get such an opportunity, by all means do shipping. Working under a strong shipping partner gives you more exposure to "interesting" cases too. If not shipping might get boring real quick.

O&B is very good. High pay awaits those who survive and WLB/Culture is much better than the top b4 firm for shipping litigation.

Helmsmann need FCH/JLC... but Ian is a v solid shipping litigator. Pays well too.

JTJB is aite. Excellent culture though. They'll train you very well. Pay is low.
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Possible to jump to b4 after tc at mid sized firm doing liti? Also when is best to apply as assoc given the 1 year tc now
Yes, possible. Some jump as NQ others at 1PQE, so on and so forth. Be careful what you get into, some teams hire assocs quickly because they just have that high of an attrition rate.
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Very niche practice area but imo you absolutely need to work under a partner who is at least band 2 ranked in Chambers. Because specialising is a pretty big gamble and if you do specialise, you dam well make sure you're super good at it. So learning under the best in that particular sector is quite important. If you get such an opportunity, by all means do shipping. Working under a strong shipping partner gives you more exposure to "interesting" cases too. If not shipping might get boring real quick.

O&B is very good. High pay awaits those who survive and WLB/Culture is much better than the top b4 firm for shipping litigation.

Helmsmann need FCH/JLC... but Ian is a v solid shipping litigator. Pays well too.

JTJB is aite. Excellent culture though. They'll train you very well. Pay is low.

thanks a lot for the comprehensive reply! could i ask what about a band 3/4 partner and what kind of exit options are there?
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thanks a lot for the comprehensive reply! could i ask what about a band 3/4 partner and what kind of exit options are there?
Try to join a band 3 practioner's team at least. So that it's easier to jump to the better teams after your TC. Just had a look at the rankings again and there are quite a few good options in the band 3/4 range as well.

Exit opportunities depends on the strength of your firm/team and your own capabilities. My seniors found it fairly easy to transition to in-house, so I don't think you will have any issues there. Shipping practice can give you wide exposure (if you are in a strong team with a lot of work coming your team's way) as you will be exposed to many other pratice areas as well, so transiting into gen lit/arbi won't be an issue either. There are a few good international firms for shipping too, so that is an extra option also after 1-3PQE.

But if you are only able to get a TC under a band 4 practitioner, don't be disheartened. Just go and then try to jump after your TC. You will be able to have a very strong career in shipping if you join any of the 3 firms that I mentioned. Can add PDLegal to the mix too.

All the best! Glad to help.
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how is the shipping industry? should i tc at a shipping firm?
Easy. Go and sign up for meet the people at Hougang.

Hougang Wp MP is Dennis tan who is a shipping lawyer.

Just show your support for WP, maybe donate some money he will sure help you 100% if y wanna get into shipping law
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In other words, staying in international firms and equity partners in b4 and major mid tier is already an achievement. Dunno why ppl keep bashing b4. U become equity partner, u can make 400k to 1.xm. Isn’t that very good. I dun even know if senior associate in international firm can make 700k total or 1m
Thar's because for those in the know, the path to equity in a Big 4 is getting much longer (~15 years), and more competitive. And we see the fat cats at the top, who aren't all that competent and got where they are because they happened to start practicing in a time the Singapore GDP was growing at double digit % every year, siphon off the majority of the profits.

The Big 4 is also not particularly meritocratic, iykyk.

At least in international firms, the partners there actually hustle to get where they are.
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