Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Jialat man I think you should reconsider your chosen career path lol

Yeah I am secretly laughing in my heart everytime I go back to my alumni JC for their careers fair. Looking at the eyes of those naive students who still think law is a lucrative opportunity.

But what can I do? Just play by the script and portray everything in a good light.

An additional $1,000 for a new separate Advocacy Course?? On top of harder Part B exams testing a million topics, and 1 year TC??? What more do they want

Originally Posted by Unregistered

An additional $1,000 for a new separate Advocacy Course?? On top of harder Part B exams testing a million topics, and 1 year TC??? What more do they want

crazy that they drop this on us in the middle of our Part B lol. what a money grab

Originally Posted by Unregistered

An additional $1,000 for a new separate Advocacy Course?? On top of harder Part B exams testing a million topics, and 1 year TC??? What more do they want

The 2 sessions are fully booked out too, within a day. Now the stragglers have to wait until the next sessions (April to Sept) and can't apply for Lawyer (NP) / Advocate & Solicitor without having it done.

Seriously

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The 2 sessions are fully booked out too, within a day. Now the stragglers have to wait until the next sessions (April to Sept) and can't apply for Lawyer (NP) / Advocate & Solicitor without having it done.

Seriously

To make matters worse there's more. Under the SILE Guidelines at [41]:

For the purposes of rule 34(b) of the Rules, supervising solicitors must ensure that each practice trainee under their supervision attends the following courses conducted by the Law Society
of Singapore:
(a) a course on the Legal Profession (Solicitors’ Accounts) Rules;
(b) a course on professional ethics; and
(c) an Advocacy Workshop.

So that means beyond Part B ($5668) + Advocacy Workshop ($1057) there are two more courses that candidates have to pay for.

The price? Unknown.

Insane.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

An additional $1,000 for a new separate Advocacy Course?? On top of harder Part B exams testing a million topics, and 1 year TC??? What more do they want

I feel that the current situation is deeply concerning, particularly as students are busy studying for Part B right now. (1) This announcement was introduced in the middle of Part B, with students expected to pay $1,000 within 1-2 days. (2) Those who couldn’t sign up in time now face delays in getting called to the bar, which could affect their career timeline. (3) There was no prior notice about these additional fees during the briefings, and some students didn’t even receive the email due to whatever reasons. (4) There may be even more costs imposed on students that are not mentioned.

I feel that the repeated financial demands, especially on fresh graduates, particularly given the timing and frequency of these charges, can come across as an unreasonable and opportunistic to some, on students who have little to no bargaining power at the start of their careers.

For example, Part B already costs over $5,700. Assuming 560 candidates, that amounts to over $3 million collected per year from Part B alone. Adding this advocacy workshop would mean an additional $500,000+. I feel that asking students, many of whom are fresh graduates with no income, to cough up significant payments on such short notice is deeply onerous, esp for those from low-income families who may need time to apply for financial aid. The timing of the email during exams, with such a short turnaround time, adds unnecessary pressure, that students may risk not being called in time if they don’t register and pay up in time.

I feel there needs to be much greater transparency regarding why this issue was not addressed sooner, why it was introduced in the middle of exams with such a short turnaround time, and why the slots are already full, leaving those who missed registration in a difficult and uncertain position about when—or even if—they will be called to the bar. Most importantly, there needs to be greater transparency and publishing clear and detailed information on how the millions of dollars collected each year are allocated, with a breakdown of the Part B fees and a clear explanation of the thousands of dollars involved.

Otherwise, I feel that these circumstances raise serious concerns about the transparency and fairness of the process, and may lead some to question how the system is being managed.

> Be me
> M SGrean/PR
> Get into law
> Delay studies to serve NS
> Start studying law 2 years late
> Miss the cut off date for the 6 mth PTP
> Have to serve 12 mths now unlike my counterparts
> Pay for the 12 mth period up in the air as firms say they will "follow the market"
> Authorities don't set any pay controls
> Pay 6k to take part B
> Finish half the papers
> Get smacked during the break with an effective demand for 1k
> waste the day looking for money rather than revising
> get the money but the aval courses are all booked out
> learn that there's 2 more courses that I must pay for

i love this profession /s

Originally Posted by Unregistered

> Be me

> Pay 6k to take part B

> Pay 6k to take part B **with "increased stringency" and new ? undisclosed pass rate**

fixed that for u brah

Originally Posted by Unregistered

> Pay 6k to take part B **with "increased stringency" and new ? undisclosed pass rate**

fixed that for u brah

Not to mention I’ve never had my question paper collected back (not even national exams like PSLE, A levels) until Part B 🤡😂 literally unheard of in an exam and the super strict rules on reproducing the question papers … why??!!

Is there anything we can do about this situation? I saw on telegram that there was an open letter circulating. Fundementally, I have a message for the higher ups: If you really want to know why people quit law or dont want to become lawyers, this is the prime example of why. By telling us in the middle of the Part B exams that we need to find 1k to pay for an advocacy course asap or our call will be delayed, it only just shows contempt for us. Instead of studying, we have to go find out how to fund this workshop.

This is on top of having to learn 20+ subjects for Part B, with topics ranging from Muslim Family law to Law and Tech.